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Da'vidinchi 11 月 27 日 上午 12:42
Is AI Considered Music?
Topic. I've listened to music made by machine learning, but, can we really consider it music? Imo, no.
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YourFriendDoge 11 月 27 日 上午 12:43 
no.
Magic A. I. 11 月 27 日 上午 12:45 
It's obviously music. But it's not art. And it's not good. Look up definitions in a dictionary.
Rain't 11 月 27 日 上午 1:03 
引用自 Da'vidinchi
Topic. I've listened to music made by machine learning, but, can we really consider it music? Imo, no.

So much of this just boils down to humans being inscure that something which isn't fleshy can do what fleshy humans do

Regardless of if it's good or not, that fact that it can even be recognised as music kinda makes it music, no?

In regards to art, most definitions go something like

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art

4a: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects

This is where definitions get tricky

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/music

If we can recognise this as "music"

1a: vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

And music is an art by its etymological origin

Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse

We get into a circular problem, and debatably get stuck in machine consciousness talk

Using the same benchmarks that we use to diagnose humans and animals with consciousness and sentience, current LLMs already meet the requirements to be labelled both conscious and sentient. But the algorithms used to make most AI music -- IE the one Suno uses -- isn't an LLM tmk

They might use an LLM to write lyrics, but the actual generation doesn't

So how much is required for it to be considered art? Is the intentional use of language by an LLM before the composition by the algorithm still count as art? If I write lyrics and put them into Suno, is that song art because of my lyrics? If there's some sort of qualifier and disqualifier, we need to located it to assess the logic. Otherwise, it's just wildly varied and mostly up to individual interpretation
BuniBealla 11 月 27 日 上午 1:05 
audibly it's music but recognised as legit music? not by alot of people no
I saw a song go viral on Tiktok recently until it was discovered the vocals were AI then people started mass unadding it from their playlists and they took the song down from streaming until they replaced it a real singer this time uwu
最后由 BuniBealla 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 1:05
Boba Shred 11 月 27 日 上午 1:11 
AI alone No, AI and Human yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcpDO3eqka8
Majinken 11 月 27 日 上午 3:50 
No. AI doesn't create anything, it just smashes preexisting things together to give you an approximation of what you asked it for. I don't think the human centipede is a good reference to have, but to each their own.

It's also not art either, since art is also (keyword here) the process and not only the end result. Warming food in the oven isn't cooking. Ordering food isn't either. Watching TV is not acting in a TV show. Watching porn is not having sex (I wish), tracing isn't drawing (and this comparison is an insult to tracing because with AI you don't even do the tracing yourself). Watching a streamer play a game isn't playing it yourself. Turning on the lights in your house doesn't make you an electrician. Taking out the trash doesn't make you a trashman...

I could quite literally be here all day. If you can't do the task without the "tool", then it's you who is the "tool".

And as for hibrid ai-human works, miss me with that nonsense. If someone actually knew how to do something then they wouldn't need the AI in the first place. Why the ♥♥♥♥ would I ask AI to do something for me if I already know how to do it? Reminds me of those stupid fridges that warn you when something is running out. As if I couldn't just open the freaking door and check myself. If you made something and then add AI, congratulations, you just undermined whatever it is the you actually did.

"oh but I wrote a song but I can't sing". Wrong. You think you can't sing. You can't sing right now. But you would totally be able to if you actually take your time with it. Heck there was that famous rapper that sang with his teeth all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and I have to believe you can't?

Please.
最后由 Majinken 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 3:58
Acyoax 11 月 27 日 上午 4:00 
引用自 Majinken
Reminds me of those stupid fridges that warn you when something is running out. As if I couldn't just open the freaking door and check myself.
They have to do that to justify having the internal sensing ability. Probably they are also wifi connected and sending all that realtime usage and storage data somewhere.
Val 11 月 27 日 上午 4:03 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmMc34vLVXM

I like how a guy just types a few lines and instantly converts old music into any genre or creates a remix
Xero_Daxter 11 月 27 日 上午 4:39 
Putting food in the microwave doesn’t make you a chef.
LexingtonSeal 11 月 27 日 上午 5:06 
Yes, it is art - and people mocking it now are going to look very very foolish indeed as this becomes the new norm for realising your imagination/dreams. That'll kick off big time in 2026 - you heard it here first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nizfPamAyew
Also if you think the minority of naysayers are going to have any influence, check out the comment section reaction to the above AI-generated video. It's a 'Star Wars 1994' trailer featuring AI arnie and another truckload of AI-generated actors.

They are absolutely loving it - and it doesn't even try to make sense. It's just so perfectly bonkers and original.

Now imagine someone who is able to devise a coherent story with this tech - and that's the death knell right there for the tired woke-fest that is today's media industry.

People are dying for something that isn't a toothless braindead 'message', and this tech is the ticket to true creative freedom. The oddballs just won't be able to control it, and we'll be straight back to the good times.
最后由 LexingtonSeal 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 5:12
AlmightyDunkle 11 月 27 日 上午 5:10 
It lacks the soul that was put into it, and the creativity.

People can do really wild things with AI, but there's just something missing.
No! to AI slop!
salamander 11 月 27 日 上午 5:15 
no, but AI caseoh covers make me laugh.
Xero_Daxter 11 月 27 日 上午 5:18 
引用自 salamander
no, but AI caseoh covers make me laugh.
https://youtu.be/ZK4tr3tSa5Y?si=g6PunCpzNgdKTCFk
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