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temps 12 月 13 日 下午 1:10
Republicans Should Tax The Rich
I am not understanding why Republicans seem to cling to this idea they should cut taxes for the rich. It's especially weird considering the rich are typically the ones who are pushing the wokeness Republicans complain about a lot.

Why would you want to give wokeness-pushing billionaires a tax cut instead of using the money to make your communities better off financially? It really makes no sense to me.

The average Republican voter is a blue collar middle-income-tier worker who would probably benefit financially from higher taxes on the rich and government spending on national healthcare.

Plus they'd get the satisfaction of knowing people like Bloomberg and high-income university educated elites have to pay the bill.
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Grendalcat 12 月 13 日 下午 1:13 
I would certainly be on board with taxing appreciated assets on inheritance.
A lot of those assets pass through several generations, without being taxed once.
When are people going to learn that you can't tax your way to prosperity.

Lower taxes = Ease of business = More wealth and job opportunities in the long term = More tax revenues.

If you want to see what happens when you impose extremely high taxes on citizens and business, look at Europe.

Germany, UK, France. All stagnant economies. Workers and educated young people migrating out (brain drain). Investment flowing to other countries. Almost no industries that can compete with the USA's or China's.

The problem with the US federal budget is SPENDING, not a lack of taxes. US tax inflows increased to 5 trillion, but unsustainable deficit spending which forces the government to borrow money is why the USA has its current issues.

And that's why the current administration is trying to get rid of all of the bloat, waste, fraud, and useless/redundant agencies.
最后由 パエトーン (Belle) 编辑于; 12 月 13 日 下午 1:19
steven1mac 12 月 13 日 下午 1:16 
They have better lawyers, and can find loop holes, congress does not want to close those loopholes or they would get taxed more, and all their donors would give money to their opponent..

Trump did give one tax break on the poor when he took office, which was to repeal the new limit on taxable goods when you make a sale as an individual to it's previous level. Biden reduced it to 400 dollars, and Trump reverted it back to 2000 dollars, so at least you don't have to fill out tax forms for selling you second hand stuff now.
xBCxRangers 12 月 13 日 下午 1:19 
They're all gonna be raising taxes with this AI dumping millions of jobs. It would not make sense anymore to cut them. Being the rationale for cutting taxes is to create jobs, not lose them.
The Father ☯ 12 月 13 日 下午 1:20 
It's basic economics.

Some video games that are nation or city building games have taxes.

Why is it in those video games raising taxes leads to stagnation, an unhappy population and sometimes depending on the video game a revolt? Why can't we just have super-high taxes and see tons of growth in those video games?

Majority of Billionaires support the left, a few billionaires support the right, but you're absolutely right taxing the higher tax-bracket might very well make more left-wingers have to pay more taxes...but it wouldn't be good for the economy.

Why do left-wingers complain about expensive cost of living while supporting politicians that intentionally keep gas around 5 dollars during a time when people have gas under 2 dollars?
Grimble Grumble 12 月 13 日 下午 1:25 
Because as much as they pretend otherwise, Republicans serve the elites. They tell you that they have to hurt you, can't afford to help all because something something Democrats. They cut their own taxes and then launch an unplanned, unbudgeted and unnecessary war spending just as much, if not more, than those evil socialist government services they insisted they had to cut. Instead of ten years of the poor having access to medical care, you get ten years of lucrative government contracts to a handful of corporations.
WhiteKnight77 12 月 13 日 下午 1:51 
引用自 The Father ☯
It's basic economics.

Some video games that are nation or city building games have taxes.

Why is it in those video games raising taxes leads to stagnation, an unhappy population and sometimes depending on the video game a revolt? Why can't we just have super-high taxes and see tons of growth in those video games?

Majority of Billionaires support the left, a few billionaires support the right, but you're absolutely right taxing the higher tax-bracket might very well make more left-wingers have to pay more taxes...but it wouldn't be good for the economy.

Why do left-wingers complain about expensive cost of living while supporting politicians that intentionally keep gas around 5 dollars during a time when people have gas under 2 dollars?
I play one of those city builders, Cities: Skylines and have seen what happens if taxes are too high. Cims leave, buildings are abandoned and the city starts bleeding money. I once helped out someone and reworked their city that was having traffic issues. Once I got traffic flowing, things were happening for the original "mayor." I decided to play the city myself, and turned off unlimited money (that the original "mayor" was using) and found out that the city was really in the hole several million cimoleans. I could not build anything due to not having any money and the game tried to get me to take a bailout (which kills achievements if one is trying to earn them). For CSL, any taxes above 12% will kill the city and appears to be the sweet spot for cities in the game. By raising and lowering taxes once cims complained about how high they were, I was able to dig the city out of debt and now have my most successful city moneywise, and without having exorbitant taxes.

As it is in real life, the rich already pay more in taxes than those in lower tax brackets, just not the 90+% that some think they should.
Swarmfly 12 月 13 日 下午 1:54 
We should stop taxing people. Give us all normal people a break.
doomshadow612 12 月 13 日 下午 1:58 
Tax is theft.
MonkehMaster 12 月 13 日 下午 1:58 
they are already taxed, upwards of 50% of their income :lunar2019laughingpig:

also as mentioned by another..

"taxation is theft"

have a nice day :gk_smile:
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 12 月 13 日 下午 2:03
Ulfrinn 12 月 13 日 下午 2:02 
The rich are already taxed. And show me an example of "cutting taxes for the rich" that isn't part over an across-the-board cut for everybody.
最后由 Ulfrinn 编辑于; 12 月 13 日 下午 2:03
The Republicans and Democrats are just another cog in the bourgeois machine. We would benefit from having a conservative party with popular economics. Socially oriented but not bureaucratic and parasitic like that of a social democracy. We would eventually be back to post-war conditions.

Social democracy doesn't make sense in America. Its economic tradition is based upon the small producer, creative capital oriented towards your community. It therefore tends towards capitalism. But a social re-direction of the economy will be needed in any sense to get America back in shape. Neo-liberalism screwed us over.
最后由 Fuki『ふき』 编辑于; 12 月 13 日 下午 2:20
Masque 12 月 13 日 下午 2:23 
引用自 MonkehMaster
they are already taxed, upwards of 50% of their income :lunar2019laughingpig:

also as mentioned by another..

"taxation is theft"

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Besides this fact, you could tax them at 100% and pay for the government for about an extra (:checks watch:) eighteen minutes, thirty seven seconds.

They need to stop spending so much, stealing so much, and giving so much away to fraudulent actors.

100% taxation on the rich would be less than a drop in an Olympic-size swimming pool.

100% taxation on every living soul in the nation would be about a drop and a quarter.
最后由 Masque 编辑于; 12 月 13 日 下午 2:23
引用自 Masque
引用自 MonkehMaster
they are already taxed, upwards of 50% of their income :lunar2019laughingpig:

also as mentioned by another..

"taxation is theft"

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Besides this fact, you could tax them at 100% and pay for the government for about an extra (:checks watch:) eighteen minutes, thirty seven seconds.

They need to stop spending so much, stealing so much, and giving so much away to fraudulent actors.

100% taxation on the rich would be less than a drop in an Olympic-size swimming pool.

100% taxation on every living soul in the nation would be about a drop and a quarter.
Corporatism, like in China, solves this problem. Since the economy is re-oriented with the nation being sovereign over the economy. This makes sense for Trumpism. After all, the woke was mainly a doing of bourgeois fruits. In a disparate and un-unifyed state like the U.S, woke capital still exists. Why not finish off the job and use corporatism to clean off woke capital? That'd be expecting Trump to be in any way revolutionary or an abberation from the old 2 party system, however...

The solution to the rich problem isn't limited merely to the reign of state paternalism. Even neoliberals and libertarians proposed new ways to solve our stagnating economy like the negative income tax, and yet the U.S. still has not heeded these signs. If even libertarians with their bourgeois dystopias are nicer than the U.S. economy is right now, you know there is a problem.
Ulfrinn 12 月 13 日 下午 2:32 
引用自 Masque
引用自 MonkehMaster
they are already taxed, upwards of 50% of their income :lunar2019laughingpig:

also as mentioned by another..

"taxation is theft"

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Besides this fact, you could tax them at 100% and pay for the government for about an extra (:checks watch:) eighteen minutes, thirty seven seconds.

They need to stop spending so much, stealing so much, and giving so much away to fraudulent actors.

100% taxation on the rich would be less than a drop in an Olympic-size swimming pool.

100% taxation on every living soul in the nation would be about a drop and a quarter.

After what got exposed happening in Minnesota, it's pretty nauseating that anyone still believes the problem is that the government doesn't take enough money from it's citizens.
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