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11 月 24 日 上午 6:30
Trump administration formally designates Venezuela’s Maduro as member of a foreign terrorist organization
Trump administration formally designates Venezuela’s Maduro as member of a foreign terrorist organization
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@grok is this real
11 月 24 日 上午 6:34 
What will happen?👀👀👀
引用自 NITRO
What will happen?👀👀👀
Hopefully a military action that completely destabilises Venezuela (it's basically only propped up by Maduro stealing everything not nailed down) and causes a tidal wave of refugees all over Latin America and the Americas as a whole, which is the only real reason nobody has done anything about Maduro yet.

We can but dream!
最后由 a haunted VHS tape 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 上午 6:40
Everybody who does something Trump doesn`t like is terrorist.
Ulfrinn 11 月 24 日 上午 7:22 
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
Everybody who does something Trump doesn`t like is terrorist.
Maduro does things no sane person likes.
Uncle Sam 11 月 24 日 上午 7:27 
引用自 a disgruntled gnome
引用自 NITRO
What will happen?👀👀👀
Hopefully a military action that completely destabilises Venezuela (it's basically only propped up by Maduro stealing everything not nailed down) and causes a tidal wave of refugees all over Latin America and the Americas as a whole, which is the only real reason nobody has done anything about Maduro yet.

We can but dream!
Libya 2.0 + Arab Spring 2.0 + human trafficking + drug trafficking + terrorism + humanitarian crisis and more! Because no one learns anything :steamfacepalm: I'm guessing Europe as per usual will look the other way and not sanction the US, or even help them in murdering civilians to keep business as usual. :lunar2019deadpanpig:
最后由 Uncle Sam 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 上午 7:39
Ulfrinn 11 月 24 日 上午 7:30 
引用自 Uncle Sam
引用自 a disgruntled gnome
Hopefully a military action that completely destabilises Venezuela (it's basically only propped up by Maduro stealing everything not nailed down) and causes a tidal wave of refugees all over Latin America and the Americas as a whole, which is the only real reason nobody has done anything about Maduro yet.

We can but dream!
Lybia 2.0 + Arab Spring 2.0 + human trafficking + drug trafficking + terrorism + humanitarian crisis and more! Because no one learns anything :steamfacepalm: I'm guessing Europe as per usual will look the other way and not sanction the US, or even help them in murdering civilians to keep business as usual. :lunar2019deadpanpig:

Venezuela is already all those things.
Inoue 11 月 24 日 上午 7:33 
引用自 Ulfrinn
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
Everybody who does something Trump doesn`t like is terrorist.
Maduro does things no sane person likes.
Same can be said of Trump
Ulfrinn 11 月 24 日 上午 7:37 
引用自 Inoue
引用自 Ulfrinn
Maduro does things no sane person likes.
Same can be said of Trump
let me know when he consolidates the entire nation's wealth into his own pockets while his citizens starve to death.
Uncle Sam 11 月 24 日 上午 7:37 
引用自 Ulfrinn
引用自 Uncle Sam
Lybia 2.0 + Arab Spring 2.0 + human trafficking + drug trafficking + terrorism + humanitarian crisis and more! Because no one learns anything :steamfacepalm: I'm guessing Europe as per usual will look the other way and not sanction the US, or even help them in murdering civilians to keep business as usual. :lunar2019deadpanpig:

Venezuela is already all those things.
So was Lybia before NATO & USA intervention, and look at the absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that's North Africa and Central Africa after the power vacuum, are the folks in your govt naive enough to think that another Libya so close to home is actually a good idea?... If y'all want less terrorism and less illegal immigrants stop bombing civilians in other countries, stop doing coups d'etat and audit the CIA, because those amoral soulless ghouls are the ones that will stop your govt, from ever winning the war on drugs.
Ulfrinn 11 月 24 日 上午 7:44 
引用自 Uncle Sam
引用自 Ulfrinn

Venezuela is already all those things.
So was Lybia before NATO & USA intervention, and look at the absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that's North Africa and Central Africa after the power vacuum, are the folks in your govt naive enough to think that another Libya so close to home is actually a good idea?... If y'all want less terrorism and less illegal immigrants stop bombing civilians in other countries, stop doing coups d'etat and audit the CIA, because those amoral soulless ghouls are the ones that will stop your govt, from ever winning the war on drugs.

Then Maduro might want to keep his drug boats out of international waters.
Uncle Sam 11 月 24 日 上午 7:57 
引用自 Ulfrinn
引用自 Uncle Sam
So was Lybia before NATO & USA intervention, and look at the absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that's North Africa and Central Africa after the power vacuum, are the folks in your govt naive enough to think that another Libya so close to home is actually a good idea?... If y'all want less terrorism and less illegal immigrants stop bombing civilians in other countries, stop doing coups d'etat and audit the CIA, because those amoral soulless ghouls are the ones that will stop your govt, from ever winning the war on drugs.

Then Maduro might want to keep his drug boats out of international waters.
Most of the drug production is from Colombia & Mexico (both key USA allies in the region), which in one way or another has been green lighted due the blank check the CIA has, in order to adquire "non-official" funds for their off the books operations...
Reminds me that the folks in your govt knew the Saudis did 9/11 (which was side effect of Operation Cyclone aka funding the Mujahideen (religious zealots) that later funded Al-Qaeda & the Taliban and similar type of groups), yet choose to invade Iraq for the oil and Afghanistan for the opium & rare earth minerals...
最后由 Uncle Sam 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 上午 7:59
Gracey Face 11 月 24 日 上午 7:58 
引用自 Uncle Sam
If y'all want less terrorism and less illegal immigrants stop bombing civilians in other countries, stop doing coups d'etat and audit the CIA, because those amoral soulless ghouls are the ones that will stop your govt, from ever winning the war on drugs.

Won't accomplish anything. What you're talking about is post hoc justifications, and more specifically post hoc justifications specifically formulated to manipulate ignorant westerners. That terrorism has always existed. Those migrational conquests have always existed. They're ordered to by their faith and their faith holds these as examples of perfect moral behaviour. The only reason why there was a downtick during the late 19th and early 20th century was because the west advanced politically, technologically and militarily to the point where it caused a cultural shock in the islamic world (essentially since they're beleivers of the true faith, and behaving exactly as muhammad instructed, there was a cultural breakdown over why they were not the most advanced), but the muslim world has since overcome that and are back into their normal operating state.
Uncle Sam 11 月 24 日 上午 8:03 
引用自 Gracey Face
引用自 Uncle Sam
If y'all want less terrorism and less illegal immigrants stop bombing civilians in other countries, stop doing coups d'etat and audit the CIA, because those amoral soulless ghouls are the ones that will stop your govt, from ever winning the war on drugs.

Won't accomplish anything. What you're talking about is post hoc justifications, and more specifically post hoc justifications specifically formulated to manipulate ignorant westerners. That terrorism has always existed. Those migrational conquests have always existed. They're ordered to by their faith and their faith holds these as examples of perfect moral behaviour. The only reason why there was a downtick during the late 19th and early 20th century was because the west advanced politically, technologically and militarily to the point where it caused a cultural shock in the islamic world (essentially since they're beleivers of the true faith, and behaving exactly as muhammad instructed, there was a cultural breakdown over why they were not the most advanced), but the muslim world has since overcome that and are back into their normal operating state.
Then why you guys have funded those groups in the past (hell you folks nowadays, even support the ex-isis and ex-al qaeda puppet in Syria, and invited him to the White House...)? Why have you give them training and weapons? Why you ignored the obvious culprit whom somehow is also a key ally in the region (the saudis)?
最后由 Uncle Sam 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 上午 8:04
Gracey Face 11 月 24 日 上午 8:08 
引用自 Uncle Sam
引用自 Gracey Face

Won't accomplish anything. What you're talking about is post hoc justifications, and more specifically post hoc justifications specifically formulated to manipulate ignorant westerners. That terrorism has always existed. Those migrational conquests have always existed. They're ordered to by their faith and their faith holds these as examples of perfect moral behaviour. The only reason why there was a downtick during the late 19th and early 20th century was because the west advanced politically, technologically and militarily to the point where it caused a cultural shock in the islamic world (essentially since they're beleivers of the true faith, and behaving exactly as muhammad instructed, there was a cultural breakdown over why they were not the most advanced), but the muslim world has since overcome that and are back into their normal operating state.
Then why you guys have funded those groups in the past (hell you folks nowadays, even support the ex-isis and ex-al qaeda puppet in Syria, and invited him to the White House...)? Why have you give them training and weapons? Why you ignored the obvious culprit whom somehow is also a key ally in the region (the saudis)?

Because due to the nebulous web that is international politics everyone ends up getting money and supplies from everyone else. Additionally there's the whole "nation building" concept where if one group seems better than the others you support them to try to get them into a dominant position so they run their country in a way that is best, but generally those groups are either deceiving their benefactors or get internally overthrown once they get a dominant position.

Also the US can't do anything but ignore the Saudis. Because the Saudis hold mecca they're kind of unassailable. You fight them and you have to go to war with the rest of the islamic world, even if the rest of the islamic world claims to hate them.
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