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OmegaBilly1 11 月 23 日 上午 11:20
Should good men...
Sacrifice themselves for a future that they'll never see?

A future that they'll never know if they made a difference?

A future where all can they do during their final moments... is hope.

You be the judge all I know is that I ain't gonna sacrifice my ass if the next generation is somehow more entitled than the last.

"Good men mean well. We just don't always end up doing well." -:DS_ZeroG:
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Fuki 11 月 23 日 上午 11:22 
We live for the future, we live to continue the cycle of life according to the laws of nature.
But on the contrary, it's hard to sacrifice yourself for a future that you know will never come to fruition. The system is hellbent on cutting off the cycle of life by all means possible; and even if you do continue it, the system will grasp at any means possible for that child to cut off the cycle of life in any way they can find, intentionally or unintentionally. Since modernity is not a consequence of a state, but rather an entire network of states which force all of this upon this, I am not convinced that we will ever be able to see the future we desire...
最后由 Fuki 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 11:25
xdopenutszzx 11 月 23 日 上午 11:23 
no; nobody should.

this is what leads to good men killing eachother simply because none of them has the right to the attempt.

or is this naught if not a duel with a man's circumstances itself; his vanity made manifest.

aka the woman's heresy.

hi did you read the plays I subjected to trial by fire to have performed? the collective got so good that several of them were attributed to the body of work I made, despite not being my work. at the small cost of my own authorship credits, of course.

no matter; 'the cats of penzance who like to dance with no pants' will live on.
最后由 xdopenutszzx 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 11:27
Tröjan 11 月 23 日 上午 11:24 
Id rather hang myself in the nearest tree than defend my country
An Irate Walrus 11 月 23 日 上午 11:26 
Sacrifice of self is founded in the hope of something better to follow.

When my dad, my wife, and myself took the oath of enlistment, it wasn't about "the future better be exactly what I want, and only good for people who are exactly like me." It was about believing there was something bigger than our individual lives that was worth stepping up for.

Now that I've been teaching for 20+ years, I know for a fact I'd eat a bullet for one of my students; I've confronted an armed student once already in my career, and I couldn't live with knowing I hid or ran while one of my kids was in danger.

Yeah, some of them are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Some of them think their ♥♥♥♥ doesn't stink.

But this is what I signed up for, and I'll see it through if the moment demands it.

It's not about being a hero, being remembered, or saving "the right ones."

It's about knowing my one life does not and cannot outweigh the others I might be able to protect.

Really that simple.
xdopenutszzx 11 月 23 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 An Irate Walrus
Sacrifice of self is founded in the hope of something better to follow.

When my dad, my wife, and myself took the oath of enlistment, it wasn't about "the future better be exactly what I want, and only good for people who are exactly like me." It was about believing there was something bigger than our individual lives that was worth stepping up for.

Now that I've been teaching for 20+ years, I know for a fact I'd eat a bullet for one of my students; I've confronted an armed student once already in my career, and I couldn't live with knowing I hid or ran while one of my kids was in danger.

Yeah, some of them are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Some of them think their ♥♥♥♥ doesn't stink.

But this is what I signed up for, and I'll see it through if the moment demands it.

It's not about being a hero, being remembered, or saving "the right ones."

It's about knowing my one life does not and cannot outweigh the others I might be able to protect.

Really that simple.

I made my students bulletproof so I could ignore them when they got shot; then one of them got shot so hard and so often I had to design a medbay for the very likely scenario that they needed surgery and I was in the middle of a coma.

Somehow they still managed to disrupt my sleep with this exact problem, despite giving them every solution possible and several impossible ones beforehand.
最后由 xdopenutszzx 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 11:31
salamander 11 月 23 日 上午 11:31 
im not a good person and will probably be reduced to atoms sooner than later, so all i can do is plant meat seeds to grow meat trees in the present.

in the hopes that some misfortunate souls of the future are able to live better lives than i did
Y1N9 11 月 23 日 上午 11:32 
Ah, being thrown on the dungheap of history and getting a "thank you" for your efforts. A paying kind of gratitude.
xdopenutszzx 11 月 23 日 上午 11:33 
引用自 Y1N9
Ah, being thrown on the dungheap of history and getting a "thank you" for your efforts. A paying kind of gratitude.

"Thank you for not ending us; we will give you nothing."
Avenger199 11 月 23 日 上午 11:37 
the only one I would sacrifice myself for is my sister if it ever came to that
Chaosolous 11 月 23 日 上午 11:37 
Good men wouldn’t have such selfish thoughts.
Uncle Sam 11 月 23 日 上午 11:46 
引用自 OmegaBilly1
Should good men...
Sacrifice themselves for a future that they'll never see?

A future that they'll never know if they made a difference?

A future where all can they do during their final moments... is hope.

You be the judge all I know is that I ain't gonna sacrifice my ass if the next generation is somehow more entitled than the last.

"Good men mean well. We just don't always end up doing well." -:DS_ZeroG:
If there's an alien Invasion of Earth as a whole? Sure, because i ain't becoming a necromorph or part of the flood, or food, etc. without a fight.
On a country per country basis? No, unless ALL the upper echelons also die in the trenches like the average soldier. "It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son."
On a life or death situation for family & close friends? Yes, without an ounce of doubt.
For a stranger / random person? No, unless you don't mind winning a Darwin award, for being naive & dumb.
最后由 Uncle Sam 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 11:51
Acyoax 11 月 23 日 下午 12:04 
Media programming. Moral rules for thee, not for me.
$2 Hero 11 月 23 日 下午 12:06 
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Sacrifice what? Time? Energy? Their life?

Personally, I think your meaning life. And your assumption is they wont be aware of the future they sacrificed for, right? Which sounds quite hellish really.

I got a massive pet peeve about sacrifice, in fact it's more than that it's an actual hate. I find it very offensive for people to be alright for others dying for them, often for their own faults. See the original eucharist / burnt offering, putting the sins of their parents on their children. It's ultra child abuse.

I personally believe a divine good sort called Jesus came and proclaimed to put an end to the sacrificing and then they tortured and sacrificed him - it's conspiracy you see! So I guess anything's possible really. While I'm not a Christian, I do believe.

Don't you guys get annoyed watching stuff like the Wicker Man? They trapped him by his own virtue for the selfish purpose of sacrificing him for a bumper crop.. Which is another ancient theme.

Another good movie is M. Night Shyamalan's - Knock at the Cabin. Spoiler Alert; I must admit right on queue when the rain come on a bubbled a bit for poor Daddy Eric and as I watched things burn, through the rain, I thought; right, better burn the evidence.. lol And I wondered if the line-man / worker managed to have the last tip of his hat with the song at the end, whether it was a tape he bought or coincidence on the radio. Also, I wondered if perhaps the woman on the phone at the end was some kind of message from Eric.

It's an offensive concept and IMO breeds selfishness and lack of responsibility / blame shifting. And I see all these well-meaning Christians singing stuff like "bath me in the blood of the lamb!" seemingly with a complete lack of empathy - like dancing on his grave and I wonder, do these guys even really believe?
Gammy 11 月 23 日 下午 12:34 
What a foolish pursuit, I'd rather live my best life right now
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