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Kargor 11 月 21 日 上午 3:21
Every once in a while, you can learn something from Trump :-)
I've always wondered whether the discussion about "illegal orders" in Babylon-5 (particularly the Proxima-III incident) was just fictional, or whether it was based on actual US military rules (since B5 is a US show, so the Earth Alliance military is likely modeled after the US military).

Turns out, it doesn't seem to be all that fictional, as some people (outside of the military, unfortunately) have reminded the military brass that they are not supposed to follow illegal orders, even if they come from his majesty Trump the 1st. Which, of course, had Trump blow up again, but that's to be expected.

Other than the legal aspect, this could be another interesting aspect concerning Trumps power-grab. He has already tried to get the military on his side before, which didn't go over too well but didn't elicit an outright confrontation either. Trump knows he needs the military if he wants to really hold his grip on the US -- but, if they take their oath seriously, that could turn out to be difficult.
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󠀡󠀡 11 月 21 日 上午 3:26 
sex related crimes
Pocahawtness 11 月 21 日 上午 3:28 
I think the most lucky aspect of Trumps reign is that he is too old to cement it. Or at least I hope he is. A few years and we will all find out.

Democracy needs reform, not replacing.
An Irate Walrus 11 月 21 日 上午 3:29 
The oath of service in all branches is to the Constitution and the American people--not to a sitting President (it does include "obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me").

Under the UCMJ, a soldier/sailor/airman/Marine has not only an ethical, but a *legal* obligation to disobey orders that violate the Constitution or established law. The Congresspersons who pointed that out were stating something any service member or veteran should already know; it's only civilians who draw their understanding of the service from Call of Duty or war films who might think literally anything the CIC (POTUS) orders is automatically "lawful."

That Trump immediately went to "sedition, punishable by DEATH" just proves the point, really.
//// 11 月 21 日 上午 4:22 
i really don't understand how babylon 5 is relevant here because in the grand scheme of things it is no more than a product of its time.

trump phenomenon, on the other hand, is pretty simple. it's almost reptile brain but not quite reptile brain.

babylon 5 universe never faced anything like this because it assumes that everything in it is beyond such clashes. every faction in it is uniquely enlightened and in their safe space.
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Talby 11 月 21 日 上午 4:32 
The only "illegal orders" I am aware of is when the top brass decided to remove everyone who did not get a covid vaxx... Whatever orders the failed party deems "illegal" will be anything but.
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󠀡󠀡 11 月 21 日 上午 4:34 
we need mor tartar sauce
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