Republicans are likely poorer, given the reddest states are the poorest states. And the redder they are, the poorer they are.

Likely because they put socio moral issues ahead of economic ones.

And so that influences their voting behaviors.

I think it’s a Chicken and egg (not or)

Could be some people join because they are poor some people can be made poor by joining.

They might even be okay with that if they think it’s fair; rich people believing they should be taxed more (if they’re being honest and it’s not some ploy)

Blue states siphon money from red states. so you tell me.

引用自 Sciencemile：

I think it’s a Chicken and egg (not or)

Could be some people join because they are poor some people can be made poor by joining.

They might even be okay with that if they think it’s fair; rich people believing they should be taxed more (if they’re being honest and it’s not some ploy)

Some of these folks are so poor they don't even pay taxes.

I remember someone years ago that was not in good economic shape, needed help financially (food stamps etc), but in conversations he'd never vote Democrats because "I'll never vote for a Democrat or they'll take my guns".

Well, you don't hunt and you're not in law enforcement, and you can't afford food nonetheless guns. "No way, they'll take all my guns and my freedoms. They're communists and kill babies'.

That is verbatum what he said.

That's how they were, then. Now it's migration the cause of their issues, or wokeness etc.

And so if people vote against their interests, we can't have sympathy.

But they do feel as those on the left do on many of these economic issues. It's just that the socio moral issues are more important to them.

引用自 Paulie：

Blue states siphon money from red states. so you tell me.

Citation needed, given that blue states overwhelmingly produce higher tax revenues than their red counterparts.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/red-states-vs-blue-states-120108646.html

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118494/documents/HHRG-119-JU13-20250715-SD014-U14.pdf

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/

https://www.moneygeek.com/resources/states-most-reliant-on-federal-government/

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Republicans are likely poorer, given the reddest states are the poorest states. And the redder they are, the poorer they are.

I think it needs to be broken down a lot further than just "States".

For example, 56% of black people live in the south, and the south is mostly red states.
That doesn't mean that all those black people who live there are republicans. It's common knowledge that there are a lot more black democrats than there are black republicans.

Louisiana is "red", and black people make up 32% of the population of that state. It doesn't mean that they're all republicans.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 Sciencemile：

I think it’s a Chicken and egg (not or)

Could be some people join because they are poor some people can be made poor by joining.

They might even be okay with that if they think it’s fair; rich people believing they should be taxed more (if they’re being honest and it’s not some ploy)

Some of these folks are so poor they don't even pay taxes.

I remember someone years ago that was not in good economic shape, needed help financially (food stamps etc), but in conversations he'd never vote Democrats because "I'll never vote for a Democrat or they'll take my guns".

Well, you don't hunt and you're not in law enforcement, and you can't afford food nonetheless guns. "No way, they'll take all my guns and my freedoms. They're communists and kill babies'.

That is verbatum what he said.

That's how they were, then. Now it's migration the cause of their issues, or wokeness etc.

And so if people vote against their interests, we can't have sympathy.

But they do feel as those on the left do on many of these economic issues. It's just that the socio moral issues are more important to them.

I guess then as soon as politicians appear willing to appeal to both those hands then we’ll see something interesting.

引用自 Houseman：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Republicans are likely poorer, given the reddest states are the poorest states. And the redder they are, the poorer they are.

I think it needs to be broken down a lot further than just "States".

For example, 56% of black people live in the south, and the south is mostly red states.
That doesn't mean that all those black people who live there are republicans. It's common knowledge that there are a lot more black democrats than there are black republicans.

Louisiana is "red", and black people make up 32% of the population of that state. It doesn't mean that they're all republicans.

Race doesn't mean anything necessarily. Many may be Baptist Christians and vote Republican. Many may not vote at all, or are just outvoted by the white population.

Poorer people in general don't tend to vote. If they did, this country would not at all be with these economic policies.

But that is portionate to why Republicans do a lot of "talking" and not "doing' when it comes to hitting SS, Medicare, Medicaid and Food Stamps, being many in their states tend to be affected, and are a political third rail.

But they're Red States, and the poorest of states.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Race doesn't mean anything necessarily. Many may be Baptist Christians and vote Republican. Many may not vote at all, or are just outvoted by the white population.

But they're Red States, and the poorest of states.

Well, I'm not asking about states, I'm asking about people.
If you're a democrat living in a 'red state', that doesn't mean that you're a republican.

Statistics show that black people are poorer than white people, on average.
Statistics show that black people vote democrat more often than republican.
Statistics show that black people live more in red states than blue states.

You say that these red states are poor.
Maybe that's because there's a disproportionately high amount of poor black democrats living in those red states.

引用自 Houseman：

Which are poorer, Republicans or Democrats? And why is this?
How does this influence their behavior, either when voting or otherwise?

The democrats, because they support social programs for the poor. Naturally they are poor supporting another poor group of people/s.

The mid class or well to do wouldn't care about them. I have always believed that working makes success. Why live off with the government money instead of working? It promotes pride and self respect by working to improve ourselves. By the way comparing employment and what the government gives you every month. Wages from employment will always be better than government's money.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Poorer people in general don't tend to vote. If they did, this country would not at all be with these economic policies.

Well, you're implying that these poorer people are republicans, aren't you?
How do they win if they're poorer, and therefore, don't tend to vote?
Why do democrats want to have mail-in ballots, which benefits those who are working poor more than it does those who can afford to take a day off to vote?

引用自 Houseman：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Race doesn't mean anything necessarily. Many may be Baptist Christians and vote Republican. Many may not vote at all, or are just outvoted by the white population.

But they're Red States, and the poorest of states.

Well, I'm not asking about states, I'm asking about people.
If you're a democrat living in a 'red state', that doesn't mean that you're a republican.

Statistics show that black people are poorer than white people, on average.
Statistics show that black people vote democrat more often than republican.
Statistics show that black people live more in red states than blue states.

You say that these red states are poor.
Maybe that's because there's a disproportionately high amount of poor black democrats living in those red states.

As someone who lived in a southern "red" state for many years: the white folks mostly lived out in the counties, and unless you were in one particular county, where the "old money" was, were generally lower-middle to lower economic class.

The cities produced most of the tax revenue, and the counties consumed the majority of it.

The majority of the non-white population lived in the cities, and although a larger minority within said cities, were still <15% of the population ointimation.

The counties were overwhelmingly Republican; my votes were effectively mouse farts in a hurricane while I lived out there.

The cities were largely Democrat.

So, no, the math ain't mathin' relative to your race-based intimations.

引用自 Houseman：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Race doesn't mean anything necessarily. Many may be Baptist Christians and vote Republican. Many may not vote at all, or are just outvoted by the white population.

But they're Red States, and the poorest of states.

Well, I'm not asking about states, I'm asking about people.
If you're a democrat living in a 'red state', that doesn't mean that you're a republican.

Statistics show that black people are poorer than white people, on average.
Statistics show that black people vote democrat more often than republican.
Statistics show that black people live more in red states than blue states.

You say that these red states are poor.
Maybe that's because there's a disproportionately high amount of poor black democrats living in those red states.

Yet there are many more poor whites then there are blacks in total people.

"Non-Hispanic White Americans make up the largest racial group of food stamp (SNAP) recipients in absolute numbers.

According to 2023 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the U.S. Census Bureau, the breakdown of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) recipients by race and ethnicity is approximately as follows:

Non-Hispanic White: around 35-37%

Non-Hispanic Black/African American: around 26%

Hispanic (of any race): around 16%

Asian: around 4%

Native American/Alaska Native: around 1-2%

Multiracial/Other: around 1-7% (depending on the source's methodology for "other" categories)

Race unknown: around 17% "

And those are just percentages in each group. There are many more whites in this country than there are black.

And many more white voters than there are black.

Yet, Trump got the majority of the white votes. Many of those white votes in working poor areas of the country, including the rust belt and rural areas.

That means paycheck to paycheck working poor. As opposed to those poor with no income at all, which most i would think do not even vote.

And so even getting beyond states, if poor whites make up a much larger contingency of the poor, and most vote Republican, on could say the poor are mostly Republicans.

I'm neither and I'm barely above the poverty line.