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Stakanov 20. nov. kl. 8:24
Why do we still say “African-American”?
I’ve always wondered why people in the US keep using the term “African-American.”
If someone is born, raised, and fully shaped by American culture, why attach another label on top of “American”?
If we’re going to be consistent, shouldn’t we also say “European-American,” “Asian-American,” and so on?

I’m African myself, and I’m saying this without hostility: we have nothing in common culturally with people in the US who are labeled “African-American.”
They’re Americans.
In Africa, they are instantly recognized as Americans, not as Africans, and that’s just reality.

So why keep using a term that seems to divide instead of unite?
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Echo 20. nov. kl. 8:29 
I've a better question, why are you still here lmao
I thought you was Chinese before? now you're African. Give your AI bot a rest.
Sidst redigeret af Echo; 20. nov. kl. 8:29
Does anyone still say that? To my knowledge, it fell out of favor and we returned to "Black" like 10 years ago.

Anyways, labels and categories are not inherently divisive in the political sense. "Italian-American" and "Irish-American" are still used especially in historical contexts to describe distinct cultures within the American melting pot.
Stakanov 20. nov. kl. 8:34 
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I’m African, and I also have a bit of Chinese ancestry.
Does that somehow bother you, or are you just trying to deflect because you ran out of arguments?
Wild Child 20. nov. kl. 8:34 
It was long form trolling. It was to make people so instinctively pc that when they were overseas they'd still use the term and look silly.
steven1mac 20. nov. kl. 8:43 
It is for political reasons more than cultural ones. Easier to to manipulate people if they are easily put into groups, a similar group would be Hispanic, even though most might come from different areas and have little in common. Although Hispanic people do tend to integrate with the population after a couple generations and consider themselves as American over their previous nationality fairly quickly, and become a less uniformed voting bloc.

Of course it would be easy for the subject to get political, even if you show it from from multiple viewpoints, but it is not worth getting OT upset when speaking of the obvious.
Sidst redigeret af steven1mac; 20. nov. kl. 8:44
Echo 20. nov. kl. 8:45 
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I’m African, and I also have a bit of Chinese ancestry.
Does that somehow bother you, or are you just trying to deflect because you ran out of arguments?

So you're French, African, Chinese anything else? ROFL
Grug 20. nov. kl. 8:48 
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Does anyone still say that?

Liberal white women, mostly.
apryl♱ 20. nov. kl. 8:49 
this comment section is funny
apryl♱ 20. nov. kl. 8:49 
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Does anyone still say that?

Liberal white women, mostly.
eyyyy im a proud conservative woman
Grug 20. nov. kl. 8:52 
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Liberal white women, mostly.
eyyyy im a proud conservative woman

They use the term "the blacks".
Because it's a social category that is deeply ingrained in human society.
Sidst redigeret af EndangeredPootisBird; 20. nov. kl. 8:58
Altimely 20. nov. kl. 8:55 
you should probably seek out and ask black people who prefer the use of "african american" instead of a bot ridden honeypot.
Poyzo 20. nov. kl. 8:56 
Did y'all know that Elon Musk, an African-American, is the richest man in the world!? :Monopoly_HAT:
Stakanov 20. nov. kl. 8:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Echo:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Stakanov:

I’m African, and I also have a bit of Chinese ancestry.
Does that somehow bother you, or are you just trying to deflect because you ran out of arguments?

So you're French, African, Chinese anything else? ROFL

I’m not French, that’s just something you invented.
I’ve lived in several European countries, mostly Spain, and right now I’m in Belgium.
Believe whatever you want, but my background is simple: I’m African-Turkish with a bit of Chinese ancestry.
The idea of people moving around or living in different places seems foreign to you, apparently...

Oprindeligt skrevet af steven1mac:
It is for political reasons more than cultural ones. Easier to to manipulate people if they are easily put into groups, a similar group would be Hispanic, even though most might come from different areas and have little in common. Although Hispanic people do tend to integrate with the population after a couple generations and consider themselves as American over their previous nationality fairly quickly, and become a less uniformed voting bloc.

Of course it would be easy for the subject to get political, even if you show it from from multiple viewpoints, but it is not worth getting OT upset when speaking of the obvious.

It just feels strange from my point of view because this kind of labeling seems very specific to the US.
In Europe, we don’t really do that. When I lived in Spain, no one called me “African” or “African-Spanish.” People just said I was Spanish because that’s where I lived.
The idea of separating people into sub-categories like that doesn’t exist the same way here.
Yew Nough 20. nov. kl. 8:58 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Stakanov:
So why keep using a term that seems to divide instead of unite?
"Nationalism" and "Heritage" seems to have that effect on people.
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