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Rain't (已封禁) 11 月 19 日 下午 3:11
[EPSTEIN] Will you believe the release?
Seems to me that they've been withheld for so long that I'm sceptical that they haven't just scrubbed the real people from the list, and fabricated some names

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/nov/19/us-congress-epstein-files-donald-trump-saudi-arabia-redistricting-latest-news-updates

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-release-mike-johnson-senate-b2868239.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq50nvq8znvo

Feels pretty meaningless now because the validity will be questionable

Just remember all of the shenanigans surrounding this cricus. The Maxwell prison transfer, the lying about the footage, the flip-flop posture voting, and many more
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causality 11 月 19 日 下午 3:12 
High possibility they were tampered with.
Grug 11 月 19 日 下午 3:15 
They need 30 days to redact any info worth knowing
Alice Liddell 11 月 19 日 下午 3:16 
I gave up on people doing the right thing.
xBCxRangers 11 月 19 日 下午 3:19 
Trump already scrubbed it. I mean what's the worst that can happen to he or Bondi, or Kash or any of them who are gonna be blank pardoned anyway.

We already know Mr Trump was knee deep in it with Epstein.

We have an evil upper crust set of people who get their jollies over these sick events.

Call us surprised :steamfacepalm:
Azza ☠ 11 月 19 日 下午 3:20 
Tampered with, just as poorly as the Trump Admin did with the Epstein's prison cell so-called "raw footage" missing 2 mins 53 secs, by being two stitched together clips with multiple editing down in Adobe Premiere Pro.

Trump will scrub his own name mentioned 2020 times (or more) throughout the Epstein Files and the Republicans, leaving just the Democrats, as he already ironically publicly announced to everyone (it's only Democrats).

They will be utterly terrible at it and it will be completely obvious to everyone in the entire world, but the MAGA cult worshipers will still consider it as 100% facts to whatever their cult leader tells them is their alt-reality.
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Rain't (已封禁) 11 月 19 日 下午 3:22 
引用自 Azza ☠
Tampered with, just as poorly as the Trump Admin did with the Epstein's prison cell so-called "raw footage" missing 2 mins 53 secs, by being two stitched together clips with multiple editing down in Adobe Premiere Pro.

Trump will scrub his own name mentioned 2020 times (or more) throughout the Epstein Files and the Republicans, leaving just the Democrats, as he already ironically publicly announced to everyone (it's only Democrats).

Anyone else remember one of the FBI guy who went on a date with an undercover journalist, and the guy was talking about how it's both sides? I can't find the link, but I remember the story

E: found it

https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1963617871281438731

It was the DOJ Deputy Chief
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Doomerang 11 月 19 日 下午 3:27 
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Rain't (已封禁) 11 月 19 日 下午 3:27 
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Jetstream Seum 11 月 19 日 下午 3:31 
Might have been tampered with, but without hard evidence of that, I'll just make no claim as to their accuracy. And, if the process of release is transparent enough, I'll be compelled to believe them.

I don't like Trump either and I think he almost certainly knew about Epstein's proclivities and activitites (and possibly participated in them). But you can't make a document's credibility contingent upon whether or not it confirms your hypothesis.
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Rain't (已封禁) 11 月 19 日 下午 3:33 
引用自 Jetstream Seum
Might have been tampered with, but without hard evidence of that, I'll just make no claim as to their accuracy. And, if the process of release is transparent enough, I'll be compelled to believe them.

I don't like Trump either and I think he almost certainly knew about Epstein's proclivities and activitites. But you can't make a document's credibility contingent upon whether or not they confirm your hypothesis.

No, but you can make an educated guess by the history of deception and bribery. I think it's a weak argument to say "You won't believe it unless Trump's name is on it" while ignoring the countless acts of deceptions and leaks
That`s what all this stalling was probably for and scrubbing teams have been working around the clock.
They're not going to share any name that matters. It will be tampered with, for sure.
R-S!N 11 月 19 日 下午 3:37 
Christ save 'em already, geeeeesh!
Jetstream Seum 11 月 19 日 下午 3:42 
引用自 Rain't
引用自 Jetstream Seum
Might have been tampered with, but without hard evidence of that, I'll just make no claim as to their accuracy. And, if the process of release is transparent enough, I'll be compelled to believe them.

I don't like Trump either and I think he almost certainly knew about Epstein's proclivities and activitites. But you can't make a document's credibility contingent upon whether or not they confirm your hypothesis.

No, but you can make an educated guess by the history of deception and bribery. I think it's a weak argument to say "You won't believe it unless Trump's name is on it" while ignoring the countless acts of deceptions and leaks

That may be, but I'm deeply averse to conspiracy thinking. If the files are untrustworthy, why are we even demanding their release? We've already made up our minds.

I think it'll be entirely possible to determine whether the files have been tampered with, and to what extent (though that might take months or years). There is old and new information being uncovered outside of what's tucked in some White House archive. If the cross-ref doesn't add up, we'll know something nefarious is afoot.
Rain't (已封禁) 11 月 19 日 下午 3:46 
引用自 Jetstream Seum
引用自 Rain't

No, but you can make an educated guess by the history of deception and bribery. I think it's a weak argument to say "You won't believe it unless Trump's name is on it" while ignoring the countless acts of deceptions and leaks

That may be, but I'm deeply averse to conspiracy thinking. If the files are untrustworthy, why are we even demanding their release? We've already made up our minds.

I think it'll be entirely possible to determine whether the files have been tampered with, and to what extent (though that might take months or years). There is old and new information being uncovered outside of what's tucked in some White House archive. If the cross-ref doesn't add up, we'll know something nefarious is afoot.

I agree, and unfortunately think people are just simply too complacent for a revolution now. More than half of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and that hasn't tipped anything. I don't think politicians ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kids will be the straw that breaks the camels back. I don't know what'll wake people up to the corruption taking place. Maybe they just think they're powerless, i don't know, but I'm tired of the inaction

e: 67%

Three in five U.S. workers surveyed say they are living paycheck to paycheck. This sentiment is highest among Gen Z and Millennials.

67% of U.S. workers surveyed say they are living paycheck to paycheck. That’s up from 63% last year.

https://www.pnc.com/content/dam/pnc-com/pdf/corporateandinstitutional/organizational-financial-wellness/organizational-financial-wellness-workplace-report.pdf

https://pnc.mediaroom.com/2024-08-28-PNC-Bank-Survey-Reveals-Varying-Financial-Wellness-Needs-Across-Americas-Most-Generationally-Diverse-Workforce
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