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Arvaos ⚚ 10 月 16 日 下午 9:40
Why is the US and UK so unhealthy?
Why do western diets contain so much pro-inflammatory junk food? Years and years of ultra processed foods creating a population that is sick.

How can we tackle the obesity epidemic? Some of them can barely leave the house unless they use crutches or a mobility scooter.
引用自 atomicgirl:
It was because of the invention of the microwave and frozen food, particularly TV dinners. People could have a "decent meal" for a fraction of the price of a home cooked dinner, and in less the time.

In the beginning, fast food and TV dinners were healthier and definitely cheaper than home made, but as operational prices rose, the fast food industry and frozen dinner industry found it harder to keep pricing them so cheap. So, this is when they started jamming everything with filler ingredients and later preservatives to keep on the shelves longer.

Americans could quit this stuff but the problem is that it's literally a lot more expensive to make a hearty home cooked meal with healthy ingredients than it is to nuke something in the microwave or air fryer.

Also, so many generations of Americans grew up eating this stuff that they have no idea how to cook anything and have developed a complex about it. Cooking shows made things even worse. Because of TV chefs, people think that they have to literally be a world class chef to make anything, even rice or a poached egg. So they keep buying fast food and frozen dinners because to them, it's easier to buy a $5 turkey dinner that tastes good than it is to make it.
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Fajita Jim 10 月 16 日 下午 9:42 
Force citizens to run a potentially lethal gauntlet every two years till they hit 60.

Athlete population in two years, promise.
最后由 Fajita Jim 编辑于; 10 月 16 日 下午 9:43
it's a product of the cold war. Richard Nixon's secretary of agriculture went all in with corn and corn syrup to drive down food prices and give American's more disposable income. In the short term we defeated the soviets but in the long run we did more harm to ourselves.
Ganger 10 月 16 日 下午 9:59 
You said it correctly, ultra processed foods. I tend to stay away and not eat processed foods if I can help it. I do try to stick with fresh food as much as I can. It's not easy tho.
hehexd 10 月 16 日 下午 10:08 
because greasy fish and chips is part of UK culture (parents literally feed that slop to kids) and the USA popularized the industry
Ganger 10 月 17 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 hehexd
because greasy fish and chips is part of UK culture (parents literally feed that slop to kids) and the USA popularized the industry

Fish and chips should be classed as a luxury food these days, you seen the cost of them. Cheaper to go shop and buy letture, tomatoes. cheese and bread and make a healthy meal. Plus I believe the main dish of the UK is now Curry.
$2 Hero 10 月 17 日 上午 10:47 
You won't believe it but this ties back to Epstein. This why we need that full list.
Lack of regulation.
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atomicgirl 10 月 17 日 上午 11:38 
It was because of the invention of the microwave and frozen food, particularly TV dinners. People could have a "decent meal" for a fraction of the price of a home cooked dinner, and in less the time.

In the beginning, fast food and TV dinners were healthier and definitely cheaper than home made, but as operational prices rose, the fast food industry and frozen dinner industry found it harder to keep pricing them so cheap. So, this is when they started jamming everything with filler ingredients and later preservatives to keep on the shelves longer.

Americans could quit this stuff but the problem is that it's literally a lot more expensive to make a hearty home cooked meal with healthy ingredients than it is to nuke something in the microwave or air fryer.

Also, so many generations of Americans grew up eating this stuff that they have no idea how to cook anything and have developed a complex about it. Cooking shows made things even worse. Because of TV chefs, people think that they have to literally be a world class chef to make anything, even rice or a poached egg. So they keep buying fast food and frozen dinners because to them, it's easier to buy a $5 turkey dinner that tastes good than it is to make it.
Drain 10 月 17 日 上午 11:43 
Carbohydrate poisoning. Until people cut the carbs and eat meat like a carnivore is supposed to, they will remain fat and/or sick. Humans are carnivores. Meat is the correct food, not plants. You put the wrong gas into the car and wonder why it breaks down.
steven1mac 10 月 17 日 上午 11:50 
Bad work/rest ratio, with only limited time, you eat what is quick, not what is healthy.
Ulfrinn 10 月 17 日 下午 12:04 
it's a product of the cold war. Richard Nixon's secretary of agriculture went all in with corn and corn syrup to drive down food prices and give American's more disposable income. In the short term we defeated the soviets but in the long run we did more harm to ourselves.

Really? You think corn syrup is worse than cane sugar?
peon 10 月 17 日 下午 12:05 
I heard a really good term recently.

Time poor, even when familys have money for proper meals, if they are both working 40+ hours, there isnt much time to cook properly. Makes it real hard.

Of course that doesnt affect the rich with their personal chefs lmao.
Ulfrinn 10 月 17 日 下午 12:11 
引用自 peon
I heard a really good term recently.

Time poor, even when familys have money for proper meals, if they are both working 40+ hours, there isnt much time to cook properly. Makes it real hard.

Of course that doesnt affect the rich with their personal chefs lmao.

It doesn't effect the politicians either who let 40 million people come in unvetted and unabated while pretending it's anybody's fault but the politicians that housing prices have gone up, and wages have stagnated.
GetUrAssToMars 10 月 17 日 下午 12:16 
引用自 peon
I heard a really good term recently.

Time poor, even when familys have money for proper meals, if they are both working 40+ hours, there isnt much time to cook properly. Makes it real hard.

Of course that doesnt affect the rich with their personal chefs lmao.

You're not wrong. It's a common issue in my age bracket where people have jobs and families. Your only option after work and afternoon sports events is usually a drive-thru.

enough time goes by and suddenly your hard earned life savings you sacrificed everything for are getting siphoned off by an assisted living community for the dementia that hits you during your retirement years.

Life really is a racket.
引用自 Ulfrinn
it's a product of the cold war. Richard Nixon's secretary of agriculture went all in with corn and corn syrup to drive down food prices and give American's more disposable income. In the short term we defeated the soviets but in the long run we did more harm to ourselves.

Really? You think corn syrup is worse than cane sugar?
I never said that lol. They are about the same but corn syrup is cheaper meaning its used more and that means people can buy more hence the increasing of food portions consumed.
最后由 Punished Rusty Shackleford 编辑于; 10 月 17 日 下午 12:33
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