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Did MAGA Make Socialism Great Again?
After the bruising losses last night, and a President at 37% approval, a Blue Tidal Wave on it's way, can we hear what our MAGA friends feel they should do DIFFERENTLY moving forward?

It seems the country is backlashing much more to the Left.

What mistakes have you made?

What can you do better to have more Americans buy into the Republican Party and MAGA movement?
最后由 xBCxRangers 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 8:56
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Lambros 11 月 5 日 上午 9:04 
I would love to send MAGA to a parallel earth where they can mistreat each other to their hearts content.
Zogtar 11 月 5 日 上午 9:08 
I'm done with both parties. I'm creating a new political party, "People who take responsibility and get work done". I know it's foreign to a lot of us, but I think it's the fresh new thing we should try.

*gets thrown out of a window*
xBCxRangers 11 月 5 日 上午 9:09 
引用自 Lambros
I would love to send MAGA to a parallel earth where they can mistreat each other to their hearts content.

Well this isn't going to be a very popular thread, because it's soley about what MAGA has done, wrong. And sometimes its hard for folks to fess up for how they messed up.

The Democrats are winning the Shut Down.

Trump is at the lowest approval of his presidency.

Democratic Socialists are winning elections in big numbers.

Food Stamps are being seized as our President sends billions to Argentina and others, as he builds ball rooms.

It seems there is a "backlash" to all of this.

And so some soul searching by our MAGA friends, and they are my friends here may be a good idea.

I forecasted what would happen to Ms Harris. And it happened. Democrats did not listen.

Now i'm warning Republicans. Lets see if they do the same.
最后由 xBCxRangers 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 9:10
Despiser 11 月 5 日 上午 9:10 
The last time this happened, about halfway through Trump's first term when republicans started losing special elections, murmurs started of a blue wave. That was when he started planting the seeds for staying in power by posting "The only way I could lose is if the election was fixed" on social media and rallies. We all know what happened in 2020.
This time he will be smarter (relatively speaking) and more aggressive. Republicans are doing everything in their power to fix elections but if that doesn't work a constitutional crisis is quite possible. Surely you didn't think troops in the cities are to crack down on crime right? It's testing the waters. The fate of American democracy rests on how the military responds.
xBCxRangers 11 月 5 日 上午 9:19 
引用自 Despiser
The last time this happened, about halfway through Trump's first term when republicans started losing special elections, murmurs started of a blue wave. That was when he started planting the seeds for staying in power by posting "The only way I could lose is if the election was fixed" on social media and rallies. We all know what happened in 2020.
This time he will be smarter (relatively speaking) and more aggressive. Republicans are doing everything in their power to fix elections but if that doesn't work a constitutional crisis is quite possible. Surely you didn't think troops in the cities are to crack down on crime right? It's testing the waters. The fate of American democracy rests on how the military responds.

Well that's right. He lost 38 Seats that year. And i think he was at 44%.

This time he may lose as many, and the Senate as well.
Ogami 11 月 5 日 上午 9:34 
I mean, what the Republicans do "wrong" is pretty obvious.
They only rely on Trump and his 37% " will always vote for him!" cult to get stuff done.
They dont really have any politics apart from tax cuts for the rich and corporations.
Like with the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare). Its one of the favorite targets of the Republicans but in 16 years they did not manage to present a alternative to the system and what would actually be better.
They are great in attacking existing systems to rile up their base but have not really anything to replace them with.
They are completely removed from the problems of the average American, meaning "how to pay rent, feed their families, dont fall into debt because they had to go to the doctor".
Those are the things the majority of Americans care about but according to the Republicans the main priority of the current president right now is to build his 200 million ( oh wait its 300 million now) golden ballroom.

There is a SLIGHT disconnect there. Trump can scream on Truth Social how much he want that grocery prices are down, jobs are being created and everything is better then ever when the average American does not sees any of the sort in their normal daily lives.
On the contrary.
So until the Republicans actually present some politics to change these problems for the better and not just pretend they dont exist they will continue to lose elections, especially if Trump is not on the ballot to motivate his hardcore MAGA followers.

Many complain the Democrats did nothing for the last 9 months but honestly, why should they?
They dont have to, the Republicans are imploding all on their own without any help.
They just have to pick up the pieces.
最后由 Ogami 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 9:38
steven1mac 11 月 5 日 上午 9:34 
Which is more of a reflection on, big bad Trump, who had nothing to do with the election, or a Democrat candidate in one of most blue areas in the country losing the race. TDR might of contributed to the victory, but it shows there is some major problems that needed to be addressed in the Democratic party.
Walach 11 月 5 日 上午 9:49 
I'm a little confused. OK, I lied, I'm very confused why it seems, at least here on this forum, that people in the USA doesn't like socialism.

I mean, there are degrees to everything, like how, too much socialism creates communism, maybe? And I see that, but in my opinion, about what I read on this forum from people in the USA(?), is that socialism, to any degree, is bad?

I kinda like what we have here in Sweden when it comes to socialism, maybe even high enough that I'd want more of it. But I don't want to force it just because I like it, or think I do. I want everyone to have a good life and I'll vote for the party I believe will do that. It changes from time to time, and I know I won't be correct about my view all of the time, or even most of the time. But, still, I just want the best for everyone! :D

Also, in my opinion, neither the Democrats or the Republicans seem to be much toward the left, Democrats are more to the left than Republicans but they are still very much on the right how I see it. Not that I have that great of a understanding about neither party. :I

I would never be able to point out what policy is from which party. I just hope people will color code everything for me.

In short, what I know of the politics system in the USA is, well, what you might think when reading the above! (Sorry about that.) :P
Dashurohem 11 月 5 日 上午 9:59 
As a Trump supporter/MAGA person myself I think....

1. It's generally pointless to attempt to reason with a leftist since you think you can mutilate a body to change its gender and support crime as long as it's migrant/black on white crime, but I'll say some of my thoughts.

1. I don't care about New York's mayor, they have been Democrats for the past decade or more so I don't understand the sudden push to elect the Democrat former governor instead of yet another Democrat, it just seemed strange.

2. Trump has some victories like stopping the endless migrant caravans that were overwhelming the southern border as well as helping peace to be made between Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cambodia, Thailand and so on. However, He has been too pro Israel to the point where it seemed like he wanted to Make Israel Great Again.

I'm not alone in thinking this because Marjorie Taylor Green has said the same, real Americans (not NEETS living as home with no responsibilities) are tired of seeing health care + taxes + housing costs increase, but wages staying stagnant or decreasing.
We want actual help and results, but it appears that both parties are always willing to send billions upon billions to Israel and Ukraine.

More specifically to Trump from a MAGA/Trump supporter point of view - some of his mistakes have been bombing Iran for Israel, not releasing the Epstein files, ending DOGE. I still support him, but mistakes like these have made supporters less enthusiastic.
引用自 Walach
I'm a little confused. OK, I lied, I'm very confused why it seems, at least here on this forum, that people in the USA doesn't like socialism.

I mean, there are degrees to everything, like how, too much socialism creates communism, maybe? And I see that, but in my opinion, about what I read on this forum from people in the USA(?), is that socialism, to any degree, is bad?

I kinda like what we have here in Sweden when it comes to socialism, maybe even high enough that I'd want more of it. But I don't want to force it just because I like it, or think I do. I want everyone to have a good life and I'll vote for the party I believe will do that. It changes from time to time, and I know I won't be correct about my view all of the time, or even most of the time. But, still, I just want the best for everyone! :D

Also, in my opinion, neither the Democrats or the Republicans seem to be much toward the left, Democrats are more to the left than Republicans but they are still very much on the right how I see it. Not that I have that great of a understanding about neither party. :I

I would never be able to point out what policy is from which party. I just hope people will color code everything for me.

In short, what I know of the politics system in the USA is, well, what you might think when reading the above! (Sorry about that.) :P
They are confusing Social Democracy with Democratic or Authoritarian Socialism. Zohran Mamdani may be to the left of Social Democracy but he is not a full-blown Socialist.
最后由 EndangeredPootisBird 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 10:11
Walach 11 月 5 日 上午 10:08 
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They are confusing Social Democracy with Democratic or Authoritarian Socialism. Zohran Mamdani may be to the left of Social Democracy but he is not a full-blown Socialist.
Thank you for the answer. To be honest, I'm probably also using the terms incorrectly.

In essence, as long as we, the people, are in control, and not a person, then I'm OK with it. Less of a chance of something bad happening! But I still have a lot to say about the current situation of [insert anything here] so nothing will be perfect, yet! ;P
引用自 Walach
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They are confusing Social Democracy with Democratic or Authoritarian Socialism. Zohran Mamdani may be to the left of Social Democracy but he is not a full-blown Socialist.
Thank you for the answer. To be honest, I'm probably also using the terms incorrectly.

In essence, as long as we, the people, are in control, and not a person, then I'm OK with it. Less of a chance of something bad happening! But I still have a lot to say about the current situation of [insert anything here] so nothing will be perfect, yet! ;P
Social Democracy sits in a sort of grayzone between Socialism and Capitalism, as modern Social Democracy does not seek to replace Capitalism like the more radical Socialist ideologies such as Democratic or Authoritarian Socialism that actually seek to partially or completely replace Capitalism through a planned economy and public ownership of production in the form of cooperatives or state control, or both.
最后由 EndangeredPootisBird 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 10:11
MinionJoe 11 月 5 日 上午 10:11 
Zohran Mamdani may be to the left of Social Democracy, but he is not a full-blown Socialist. People in the US are just confusing Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism.
Are you sure about that?

https://www.dsausa.org/

Seems odd that Mamdani would be featured prominently on the Democratic Socialist website if he wasn't a Democratic Socialist.

Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani’s win as the next mayor of New York City is a win for the working class. New Yorkers achieved the most monumental electoral victory for the US socialist movement in the last century — despite the millions of dollars invested to stop us.
最后由 MinionJoe 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 10:15
引用自 MinionJoe
Zohran Mamdani may be to the left of Social Democracy, but he is not a full-blown Socialist. People in the US are just confusing Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism.
Are you sure about that?

https://www.dsausa.org/

Seems odd that Mamdani would be featured prominently on the Democratic Socialist website if he wasn't a Democratic Socialist.
I am sure because he advocates for a Social Democratic system, not Democratic Socialism. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pem255jxQEoWCN3Ic5ILZa2a9a4oDtqe/view
最后由 EndangeredPootisBird 编辑于; 11 月 5 日 上午 10:17
Haruspex 11 月 5 日 上午 10:16 
And the pendulum continues to swing.
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