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Netaris (已封禁) 11 月 3 日 上午 11:40
USA vs Venezuela
I bet for an USA vs Venezuela war in approximately a week or less. And I also bet for an US victory this time, because this war isn't only for oil. The real consequences of such war are way bigger than simply economic ones. So americans will be very motivated this time, and close enough to home to send a LOT of firepower here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxMeXM7P8lQ

USA is doing it again.
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Voroff 11 月 3 日 下午 12:18 
Ho, pliz stop ya frenchie. It's just Lierak 2.0, but this time with the excuse of speedboats that could for "some reason reach the US" instead of phantom WMD.


Pro-tip : the speedboats that were missile'd by the US §Navy in internationnal waters ? They could have NOT reached the US without being refuelled at least thrice, meaning that if they transport anything : it's gas, and not drugs. So the US Navy just murdered a bunch of civiies in international waters. Hey, if any of you are from the US military that were in Afghanistan or Irak or Syria : how do you feel about "defending the US" by invading a country that is literaly at the ANTIPODES of the US on the globe ? :)
The doctor is in 11 月 3 日 下午 12:19 
When did America last actually win a war? WWII, sure — everything since is just a mess:

Korea (1950–53) → ended in a stalemate.

Vietnam (1955–75) → clear loss.

Middle East (Iraq 1991 & 2003–2011, Afghanistan 2001–2021, Libya 2011, Syria ongoing) → toppled regimes but long-term chaos.

Gaza / Palestine → massive civilian toll, no real victory.

Africa interventions (Somalia, Libya, Niger, etc.) → tactical strikes, strategic instability.

North Korea → technically never resolved.

America can spend trillions, deploy overwhelming firepower, and kill civilians — but that doesn’t make it a win.

Endless interventions. Millions die overseas, trillions spent, fuel the Military Industrial Complex/Militarized Police State, but the real cost lands at home.

War on Drugs & War on Terror → mass incarceration, civil liberties curtailed, constant fear, billions of taxpayer dollars.

9/11 blowback → terrorism abroad and increased surveillance here.

Lack of universal healthcare, affordable education, living wages, and housing → people suffer while the military budget dwarfs social programs.

National debt & deficit → average American can’t handle a $500 emergency while the government spends trillions on war.

Every dollar spent on endless wars is a dollar not spent on infrastructure, schools, or helping communities.

The U.S. projects power abroad but often fails strategically — and ordinary Americans pay the price in lost social services, higher taxes, and a perpetual state of insecurity, financial fragility, and endless debt.
最后由 The doctor is in 编辑于; 11 月 3 日 下午 12:23
Voroff 11 月 3 日 下午 12:26 
引用自 The doctor is in
The U.S. projects power abroad but often fails strategically — and ordinary Americans pay the price in lost social services, higher taxes, and a perpetual state of insecurity, financial fragility, and endless debt.
Hey, who cares about the "average American" ? To hell with them, the only ones that matters are the investors of the militaro-industral complex. Right, lad ? :D
Talby 11 月 3 日 下午 12:31 
USA vs cartels
fixed...
its the humanitarian duty of every developed nation to save the less fortunate nations from communism, terrorism and drug cartels
unfortunately seems like many developed nations are now suffering from communism, terrorism and drug cartels which used to be exclusively third world issues until recently
MinionJoe 11 月 3 日 下午 12:38 
引用自 The doctor is in
When did America last actually win a war? WWII, sure
Which, unironically, was the last time the U.S. declared war.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/declarations-of-war.htm
SirSeanicus 11 月 3 日 下午 12:40 
引用自 Voroff
引用自 The doctor is in
The U.S. projects power abroad but often fails strategically — and ordinary Americans pay the price in lost social services, higher taxes, and a perpetual state of insecurity, financial fragility, and endless debt.
Hey, who cares about the "average American" ? To hell with them, the only ones that matters are the investors of the militaro-industral complex. Right, lad ? :D
Find those crown jewels yet, pierre?
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Netaris (已封禁) 11 月 3 日 下午 12:45 
Well, this war will not be the same as middle-eastern ones. It's way closer to home for americans and logistics are very important in wars, if not the most important thing. Especially when Venezuela potential allies are still busy in Ukraine and far away. On top of that, the potential gains for the USA in such war are enormous. Again, it's not only about the oil, it's also about getting rid of the main russian ally in this region of the world, knowed to fund several far left organisations in western countries. It could get rid of the very roots of a potential future US civil war caused by far left movements funded by Russia and China through their proxies, such as Venezuela.

It's basically USA's Ukraine war that's about to start, they can't afford to lose this one.
Despiser 11 月 3 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 76561199882869808
unfortunately seems like many developed nations are now suffering from communism, terrorism and drug cartels which used to be exclusively third world issues until recently
Oh stop, communism went down with the Berlin Wall.
引用自 Despiser
引用自 76561199882869808
unfortunately seems like many developed nations are now suffering from communism, terrorism and drug cartels which used to be exclusively third world issues until recently
Oh stop, communism went down with the Berlin Wall.
communism didnt die in 1989, it just became dormant for a few years

communism returned in 2014 in the form of wokeism
Voroff 11 月 3 日 下午 12:53 
引用自 Despiser
引用自 76561199882869808
unfortunately seems like many developed nations are now suffering from communism, terrorism and drug cartels which used to be exclusively third world issues until recently
Oh stop, communism went down with the Berlin Wall.
It's still alive in their heads. Cranberries, "zombie" song is fitting here.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&list=RD6Ejga4kJUts
Despiser 11 月 3 日 下午 12:55 
引用自 The doctor is in
When did America last actually win a war? WWII, sure — everything since is just a mess:

Korea (1950–53) → ended in a stalemate.

Vietnam (1955–75) → clear loss.

Middle East (Iraq 1991 & 2003–2011, Afghanistan 2001–2021, Libya 2011, Syria ongoing) → toppled regimes but long-term chaos.

Gaza / Palestine → massive civilian toll, no real victory.

Africa interventions (Somalia, Libya, Niger, etc.) → tactical strikes, strategic instability.

North Korea → technically never resolved.

America can spend trillions, deploy overwhelming firepower, and kill civilians — but that doesn’t make it a win.

Endless interventions. Millions die overseas, trillions spent, fuel the Military Industrial Complex/Militarized Police State, but the real cost lands at home.

War on Drugs & War on Terror → mass incarceration, civil liberties curtailed, constant fear, billions of taxpayer dollars.

9/11 blowback → terrorism abroad and increased surveillance here.

Lack of universal healthcare, affordable education, living wages, and housing → people suffer while the military budget dwarfs social programs.

National debt & deficit → average American can’t handle a $500 emergency while the government spends trillions on war.

Every dollar spent on endless wars is a dollar not spent on infrastructure, schools, or helping communities.

The U.S. projects power abroad but often fails strategically — and ordinary Americans pay the price in lost social services, higher taxes, and a perpetual state of insecurity, financial fragility, and endless debt.
Cuba? Bay of pigs? Should have been able to beat Cuba. Syria they let Russia deal with. But wins in Grenada and Panama.
Despiser 11 月 3 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 76561199882869808
引用自 Despiser
Oh stop, communism went down with the Berlin Wall.
communism didnt die in 1989, it just became dormant for a few years

communism returned in 2014 in the form of wokeism
Woke was around before 2014. It became a rallying cry for liberals in the 60s. Dictionary definition is, "bringing attention to a social injustice". Conservatives took offence to that and reworked it to mean, promoting progressive agenda, like BLM, LGBTQ and so on. Dictionaries appended the conservative definition and now includes both. It takes some leap of logic to connect it to communism. I suppose if you didn't grow up during communism you can be excused for not knowing what it is.
Corvus XIII 11 月 3 日 下午 1:13 
Does anybody actually know what Venezuela is like?
Check out Ross Kemp on Venezuela documentary it is a good introduction.
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