This will be a productive thread.

引用自 Last Jackdaw：

This will be a productive thread.

It is because many of these people laugh or mocked deaths of others, but now someone who they personally care about because of identity politics dies brutally, everything is not funny anymore? But they had no problem making fun of peoples deaths and they still pump out George Floyd content poking fun at his death.

I'm wondering whats with the hypocrisy? All of a sudden they care about compassion and respect, but showed the complete opposite every time before Kirk.

How the president is reacting to his death is very unproductive and actually destructive. We don't even have a suspect or motive yet. And he is blaming groups of people he doesn't like. As seen on TV.

I wonder how much you care about the school shooting that happened at more or less the same time. Probably not much given the distinct lack of outrage from righties over that.

It's okay, because the left does not know how to meme, so it'll just backfire.

引用自 Coach：

引用自 Last Jackdaw：

This will be a productive thread.

It is because many of these people laugh or mocked deaths of others, but now someone who they personally care about because of identity politics dies brutally, everything is not funny anymore? But they had no problem making fun of peoples deaths and they still pump out George Floyd content poking fun at his death.

I'm wondering whats with the hypocrisy? All of a sudden they care about compassion and respect, but showed the complete opposite every time before Kirk.

Who makes fun of death? 2 wrongs never makes a right.

Was George Floyd a criminal? Yes. Did the officers use excessive force? Yes.

It was a tragedy and could have been handled better for both sides.

引用自 Houseman：

It's okay, because the left does not know how to meme, so it'll just backfire.

No it won't backfire. You guys today are still pumping out George Floyd memes years after he died. The point of this thread is self reflection. This is all messed up, charlie kirks death and so was george floyds. Making fun of death isn't funny right?

Now we can start asking "what is compassion" That wasn't shown by your politicians or voting members when he slowly died from suffocation, which was a slower more painful death than Charlie Kirks. George was crying out to his mother, and the rights reaction was "hahahaha this is funny lets turn this into a meme for many years."

So asking people who don't like Kirk to have compassion from him and being angry about it just doesn't register. Let's use this moment to realize that death isn't funny.

Don't worry it will. Doesn't affect me either way. Just ignore memes. They aren't vessels of information, they're vessels of nonsense.

I don't recall mocking the death of him. I felt bad for the man. What left a bad taste in my mouth was the chaos and destruction left in his wake.

Get me proof that George was out there doing something constructive and your OP wouldn't come off as complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You post your white square of Iryna yet? #Sayhername ?

引用自 Coach：

Making fun of death isn't funny right?

It definitely can be. There is nothing off-limits when it comes to humor. 9/11 jokes still get made all the time.

It just has to be funny, that's all.

引用自 Houseman：

引用自 Coach：

Making fun of death isn't funny right?

It definitely can be. There is nothing off-limits when it comes to humor. 9/11 jokes still get made all the time.

It just has to be funny, that's all.

So if you hold that view, then why can't you see why others would make fun of his death.

And why is it funny? Seeing countrymen killing each other or experiencing fatal terrorism is funny?

There is some sort of mass cognitive dissonance happening. And it's so loud and obvious.

I don't think we need Charlie Kirk death memes, like George Floyd right? These are Americans right? Why did the right in mass bully and make fun of George Floyd's death, i've seen tons of memes of him either on steam artwork or random discussion boards. With many still up today, and then you go to 4chan or twitter or certain parts of reddit (the conservative part of reddit).

And it was just people in mass laughing and thumbing up his death and laughing at the memes. Now it's not funny right? This inhumanity isn't supposed to be seen as normal. But the open Hypocrisy is quite loud and telling. As someone who has far right friends, this is what i mean.

The point of this, is not to get angry, but to say "hey maybe we are kind of failing as a society especially in morality."

引用自 Coach：

So if you hold that view, then why can't you see why others would make fun of his death.

You're making too many assumptions.
I can see why others would make fun of his death. I never said I couldn't.

And why is it funny? Seeing countrymen killing each other or experiencing fatal terrorism is funny?

It's not inherently funny, but you can still make a joke out of it. Like I said, 9/11 jokes still get made all the time. There was nothing funny about 9/11 in itself, but people still successfully made jokes about it.

You can make a joke out of anything.

引用自 Houseman：

引用自 Coach：

So if you hold that view, then why can't you see why others would make fun of his death.

You're making too many assumptions.
I can see why others would make fun of his death. I never said I couldn't.

And why is it funny? Seeing countrymen killing each other or experiencing fatal terrorism is funny?

It's not inherently funny, but you can still make a joke out of it. Like I said, 9/11 jokes still get made all the time. There was nothing funny about 9/11 in itself, but people still successfully made jokes about it.

You can make a joke out of anything.

Don't you think that many Americans joking about brutal deaths regardless of political party desensitizes us and dehumanizes each other, aren't we supposed to be countrymen despite the differences.

I hate how Kirks death is being used to fuel further division which thus just end up with more assassination and lone wolf killings including mass killings.

I guess no one really cares outside of "HEY OUR GUY WAS KILLED" and the conversation wont go any further than that, sad. Really sad. Americans are so desensitized to violence, that nothing will get fixed.

This is just nonstop friendlyfire. If things continue this way and no one wants to think about the bigger picture, then this will happen a lot more, and people will forget that Charlie Kirk was assassinated with the possibility of constant and random violence. It can come from anyone, anywhere. You could be shopping at a mall and end up in a mass shooting, you can end up in an argument with someone who is mentally disturbed or psychopathic = death, you could be speaking at a political event and shots start to ring out, you could end up in a road rage incident and get shot to death (i've watched road rage gun violence, it's quick and violent), your children can end up in a mass shooting, you'd 100% want gun control if your kids died in school or in a public space.

Remember those words from Biden.

“My fellow Americans, I want to speak to you tonight about the need for us to lower the temperature in our politics… While we may disagree, we are not enemies. We’re neighbors. We’re friends, coworkers, citizens. And, most importantly, we are fellow Americans.”


And compare it with what is saying the actual US president that is going in a really different direction.

Looking while sitting on Europe all I can think is that things look very bad, a political hunting is about to start at the US, things are looking very bad for US democracy and people.

It's not good material for a meme, it's a serious thing

引用自 Coach：

Don't you think that many Americans joking about brutal deaths regardless of political party desensitizes us and dehumanizes each other, aren't we supposed to be countrymen despite the difference.

#1 Yes, it desensitizes us. But this is not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes, we could stand to be less sensitive.

#2 No, I don't think it dehumanizes us. Perhaps it dehumanizes the deceased, and if you're offended on behalf of someone who is already dead, see #1.

I hate how Kirks death is being used to fuel further division which thus just end up with more assassination and lone wolf killings including mass killings.

Yeah it sucks, but there's nothing we can do about it.

I guess no one really cares outside of "HEY OUR GUY WAS KILLED" and the conversation wont go any further than that, sad. Really sad. Americans are so desensitized to violence, that nothing will get fixed.

You are correct.

Edit to address your edit:

If things continue this way and no one wants to think about the bigger picture... you'd 100% want gun control if your kids died in school or in a public space.

That's exactly the opposite of the "bigger picture". That's small-scale selfish thinking to want to take everyone's guns away just so you can feel safer about your children.

I don't care, why would I?