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Strange encounter with a junkie, have a question for the experts
had a weird encounter...

Junkie likes to stay near telephone booth and gas station. I gave a small pizza to the junkie who was suprisingly chill and likes to chat. Not the usual behavior I was expecting but for some reason, I was just glad the junkie seems fine.

Second day, on my way in to grab a coffee, I greeted that junkie "remember me yesterday" but to my suprise, it was the total opposite of what happened on the first. Junkie exhibited some sort of withdrawal, twitches like crazy and refused to take anything from me so I was like uh ok and noped out.

I really thought I helped brightened the junkie's mood with the pizza but apparently not...

Is this normal for them to go through emotional changes everyday and ignored the food they gave you?
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引用自 Reaper_
I had a weird encounter...

Junkie likes to stay near telephone booth and gas station. I gave a small pizza to the junkie who was suprisingly chill and likes to chat. Not the usual behavior I was expecting but for some reason, I was just glad the junkie seems fine.

He's staking somewhere out for someone.

People are really uncomfortable with 'small pizza' charity unless they're working, most of the time. Some people are a little more chill about free food.

Second day, on my way in to grab a coffee, I greeted that junkie "remember me yesterday" but to my suprise, it was the total opposite of what happened. Junkie exhibited some sort of withdrawal, twitches like crazy and refused to take anything from me.

Yes, discouraging reaction; wants you not to come back.

If he liked your free food, he wouldn't have done this most likely.

I really thought I helped brightened the junkie's mood with the pizza but apparently not...

Is this normal for drug addicts to go through emotional changes everyday?

It's normal for people who are staking to do this. It is sometimes normal for homeless people, they may have an emotional problem. This is what a staker would want you to assume.

Stakers may or may not be as impoverished as they appear, but given their income it's often a choice. Not always though; sometimes someone has you on something and uses you to stake.
最后由 o 编辑于; 14 小时以前
yepp, happened to me too. a destroyed and sick psyche and drugs are doing that i guess. and with the rising pressure in work and life in this society, this problem will rise aloooooooooot.

imo 80% of the whole population is mentally sick.
最后由 MEGA MAN 编辑于; 14 小时以前
You have spent your entire life suckling at the teet of western society and it has left you so insulated from any of the things that happen outside your parent's house that you are unable to comprehend them.
We simply dont have all the data needed to give a quick soundbite solution to this event.

There could be millions of reasons for this behavior.
All encounters with junkies are strange
引用自 MEGA MAN

imo 80% of the whole population is mentally sick.

One in four, according to the British NHS.
firstly a personal tip.. stop calling them junky
-> I used to too even when well meaning to them..
as a dutch I not imediatly thought about the meaning of the word junk we use as a loanword in dutch too
in english means garbadge.. to be discared. trash.. less than worthless..

since than I try to use the term "adict" as or "homeless" when they are not users of anything
in english hobo or bum likely would be ok to use too.. as that merely describes what they actually are.. not calling them out as being lesser people.


secondly I comment you for talking to him, I can tell you many homeless and adicts crave a conversation.. as people are generally much more easy to give them stuff and money.. than actually for once see them as a person.. even people who help them merely see them as "a client"
many homeless will apreciate you sitting down with them asking their story how they got here.. and if you build a relation asking how their day went.. over giving them anything..
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you also have him food.. I also comment that..
I can tell you he did love that.. but they call it an adiction for no reason.. do you think adicts no love their parents or you or not desire a warm roof and bed? sure they do.. but their adiction is a master over them.. they are slaves to it.. and they will do anything when the addiciton pressed them for a fix.. even steal from the people they most love or sell items they need to survive.. basicly their pavlov piramid has "get fix" at the bottom of it" beyond even survival.
-> thats why if you help them you must be frank with them.. not feed into their adiction give items not money.. and not to much at once (I had homeless who sold the boots I gave them when it was winter as well as the jacket.) who would buy used stuff from a homeless with their body smell? well other homeless are dealers too.. and they are very crafty in returning items that are new to the store for money...
this is not cause they not apreciate the gifts.. it is cause their adiction at times basicly takes over... they feel remorse and shame and sadness after.
*thus best to give them food and clothing in small dosis, properly made unsellable (buy used not new, open food packaging so it cannot be returned to store and stain with paint or ink any clothing such that while still fully functional nobody will want to buy them.
->
you can be open with them.. that you will protect them against themselves and help them against themselves and will not aid in their adiction..such frankness usually is very much apreciated by them.. for they KNOW that what you say is true and in a way like it you do this.

but know they are still adicts... some I helped and talked started to make up fantastical stories... wanting to visit grandma or needing money to get a house.. yet when I went.. ok lets go there together suddenly excuses.. I just call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that and drew a line.
basicly if they know you buy them a meal each day and have a talk with them.. even took them to the 2d hand clothing shop.. they will try to get more.. again their adiction pressing..
don't abadon them.. but you can draw a line... and call them out..
you KNOW what you say is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you just want money for a fix.. I am your friend.. you should not lie.. I will not force you to stop your adiction but I will not help you in it.. and when your ready to stop.. I am willing to bring you to a place where you can..
(they still keep trying occationally.. streetwork is hard you need compassion as well as a healthy disstance cannot have them to close emotionally nor fysically for they are jackel and hyde.,. the person is the nice side.. the adiction the evil one..

that they are not willing to break the acction some never do.. is also for reasons they may eventually reveal.. they started often using for a reason often deep hurt.. pain that they felt unable to face when they were still normal people.. on top of the struggle of getting clean..
they still will have to have faith that they now CAN deal with both that trauma AND all that they went trough being addict.. many see that as an impossible mountain..
getting clean is not the hard part.. but cutting this trauma what made them desire the drug in the first place is... and as long they believe they cannot handle the trauma.. without.. they will not desire to get clean..

but when you meet them at a moment of weakness as you clearly have... in a full on need a fix mode.. well you saw the evil side.... and you walked away..
don't be discouraged to have a talk next time..
just know he is a man but also an adict.. and his adict side makes him behave like that at times..
If someone's getting high, expect them to be mentally unstable. It's what drug abuse does to people.

Good of you to show charity, but don't get yourself tied up in a bad situation. I say live and let live.
if i had to live on the streets, id likely turn to drink and drugs to simply cope with being regarded as human flotsam
引用自 De Hollandse Ezel
firstly a personal tip.. stop calling them junky
-> I used to too even when well meaning to them..
as a dutch I not imediatly thought about the meaning of the word junk we use as a loanword in dutch too
in english means garbadge.. to be discared. trash.. less than worthless..

since than I try to use the term "adict" as or "homeless" when they are not users of anything
in english hobo or bum likely would be ok to use too.. as that merely describes what they actually are.. not calling them out as being lesser people.


secondly I comment you for talking to him, I can tell you many homeless and adicts crave a conversation.. as people are generally much more easy to give them stuff and money.. than actually for once see them as a person.. even people who help them merely see them as "a client"
many homeless will apreciate you sitting down with them asking their story how they got here.. and if you build a relation asking how their day went.. over giving them anything..
**
you also have him food.. I also comment that..
I can tell you he did love that.. but they call it an adiction for no reason.. do you think adicts no love their parents or you or not desire a warm roof and bed? sure they do.. but their adiction is a master over them.. they are slaves to it.. and they will do anything when the addiciton pressed them for a fix.. even steal from the people they most love or sell items they need to survive.. basicly their pavlov piramid has "get fix" at the bottom of it" beyond even survival.
-> thats why if you help them you must be frank with them.. not feed into their adiction give items not money.. and not to much at once (I had homeless who sold the boots I gave them when it was winter as well as the jacket.) who would buy used stuff from a homeless with their body smell? well other homeless are dealers too.. and they are very crafty in returning items that are new to the store for money...
this is not cause they not apreciate the gifts.. it is cause their adiction at times basicly takes over... they feel remorse and shame and sadness after.
*thus best to give them food and clothing in small dosis, properly made unsellable (buy used not new, open food packaging so it cannot be returned to store and stain with paint or ink any clothing such that while still fully functional nobody will want to buy them.
->
you can be open with them.. that you will protect them against themselves and help them against themselves and will not aid in their adiction..such frankness usually is very much apreciated by them.. for they KNOW that what you say is true and in a way like it you do this.

but know they are still adicts... some I helped and talked started to make up fantastical stories... wanting to visit grandma or needing money to get a house.. yet when I went.. ok lets go there together suddenly excuses.. I just call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that and drew a line.
basicly if they know you buy them a meal each day and have a talk with them.. even took them to the 2d hand clothing shop.. they will try to get more.. again their adiction pressing..
don't abadon them.. but you can draw a line... and call them out..
you KNOW what you say is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you just want money for a fix.. I am your friend.. you should not lie.. I will not force you to stop your adiction but I will not help you in it.. and when your ready to stop.. I am willing to bring you to a place where you can..
(they still keep trying occationally.. streetwork is hard you need compassion as well as a healthy disstance cannot have them to close emotionally nor fysically for they are jackel and hyde.,. the person is the nice side.. the adiction the evil one..

that they are not willing to break the acction some never do.. is also for reasons they may eventually reveal.. they started often using for a reason often deep hurt.. pain that they felt unable to face when they were still normal people.. on top of the struggle of getting clean..
they still will have to have faith that they now CAN deal with both that trauma AND all that they went trough being addict.. many see that as an impossible mountain..
getting clean is not the hard part.. but cutting this trauma what made them desire the drug in the first place is... and as long they believe they cannot handle the trauma.. without.. they will not desire to get clean..

but when you meet them at a moment of weakness as you clearly have... in a full on need a fix mode.. well you saw the evil side.... and you walked away..
don't be discouraged to have a talk next time..
just know he is a man but also an adict.. and his adict side makes him behave like that at times..
My apologies, appreciated you took the time to explain.

Yes the person was quiet chatty and I was just the "listener" for a short time and left. It all makes sense now.

I guess I approached in a bad time.
He was likely tripping during the second encounter.
However, pro tip : don't give anything to junkies or beggars overall, 90% of them are scams and or the thing you just described.
最后由 Siluva 编辑于; 13 小时以前
I always give. its nothing to me and if it helps them, then its all good.
He probably was just out of it when you spoke the second time.
I’m gonna try and say hello one more time and see if the person is back to normal mode.

To be honest, i’m still thinking about the first day.
引用自 Siluva
He was likely tripping during the second encounter.
However, pro tip : don't give anything to junkies or beggars overall, 90% of them are scams and or the thing you just described.
Definitely not one for sure. Beggars and scammers approaches to people and ask for money and have carboard signs with them.

That one is different and just wander there, strolls around and disappears later. Never talks.

I live around so it’s inevitable that I would walk past that person on my way back from work or to grab a coffee.
最后由 Reaper_ 编辑于; 4 小时以前
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