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Fuki 10 月 22 日 下午 1:58
What Would the Nazi Death Toll Be If They Had Won?
This is speculative, but based on historical documents and Nazi ideology, we can estimate possible outcomes.




🔴 Historical Context: Nazi Death Toll During WWII

Already committed during WWII:
  • The Holocaust: ~12 million murdered, including: millions of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, disabled people, Slavs, Soviet POWs, political dissidents, ♥♥♥♥♥.
  • Total civilian and military deaths caused by Nazi Germany: At least 17 million (possibly more).




📚 Nazi Plans for After Victory

1. Generalplan Ost (Master Plan for the East)
  • Goal: German colonization of Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, Russia).
  • Planned extermination or displacement of 30–50 million Slavs.
  • Territories would be "cleansed" for German settlers.

2. Global Expansion of the Holocaust
  • Nazis intended to kill single non-White, globally — not just in Europe.
  • Had they conquered North Africa, the Middle East, or the Americas, the human death toll could have risen to 10–15 million.

3. Colonization of Africa and Other Regions
  • Plans to dominate Africa and possibly South America.
  • Based on earlier genocidal policies (e.g., Herero and Namaqua genocide).
  • Likely outcomes: mass enslavement, racial extermination.




🧮 Estimated Total Death Toll (If Nazis Had Won)

Group
Estimated Deaths
Slavic peoples
30–50 million
Non-whites (global)
10–15 million
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, disabled, ♥♥♥♥♥, dissidents
2–5 million
Others in colonies and occupied lands
10–20 million

➤ TOTAL: 50 to 100+ million deaths

If the Nazis had won WWII, the global death toll could have exceeded 50–100 million people due to:
  • Genocidal ideology and racial policies.
  • Documented plans like Generalplan Ost.
  • Historical precedents of mass murder and systemic extermination.
最后由 Fuki 编辑于; 10 月 22 日 下午 1:58
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Milk P. Chan 10 月 22 日 下午 2:00 
This reminds me of Islamism, or the Jihad, so be wary of what you wish for OP. There are bad actors all around us.
最后由 Milk P. Chan 编辑于; 10 月 22 日 下午 2:01
Fuki 10 月 22 日 下午 2:01 
引用自 Milk P. Chan
This reminds me of Islamism, so be wary of what you wish for OP.
...what?
You should just read The Man in the High Castle
最后由 Cinnamoon_dragon 编辑于; 10 月 22 日 下午 2:03
[:-:] 10 月 22 日 下午 2:06 
Is this another "employees of Sucker Punch took Adolf's quotes out of context" thread?
Sigmund Greud 10 月 22 日 下午 2:07 
Best I can do is 271k
Jololo 10 月 22 日 下午 2:46 
Number 2 and 3 is pure fiction there weren't plans for that.
Sauriel 10 月 22 日 下午 2:57 
wasnt the native indian genocide like, around 55 mill ? all the tribes were almost exterminated when us colonized
Fuki 10 月 22 日 下午 3:05 
引用自 Jololo
Number 2 and 3 is pure fiction there weren't plans for that.
It's extremely real and it's not fictional.
Jetstream Seum 10 月 22 日 下午 3:05 
To my knowledge, the Nazis had no plan to kill "every single non-White" person. Remember that Nazism, and European racism by in large, did not really view race in terms of color.

It's entirely possible that there would have been genocides in sub-Saharan Africa, but Nazi Germany had little interest in the region (and even less in South America), as they intended to colonize Eastern Europe. As for North Africa, they were generally ambivalent on Arabs and Turks, and considered some Berber tribes full Aryans. These areas might have become distant German satellites, but not targets for extermination campaigns (except the Holocaust, as there were millions of Jews in the Muslim world at the time).

Generalplan-Ost is absolutely real though, and already killed around 10 million Slavs (not counting military deaths) in our timeline through the Hunger Plan, as part of the Holocaust, or through direct extermination. It would have been +30 millions at the very lowest had it been fully implemented.

Personally, I'd attribute the 40 million deaths in Europe to Nazism. My logic is this : if the man-made famines of the USSR and China are to be blamed on communist policies, and they should be, then war deaths of WW2 should absolutely be blamed on Nazi aggression. If they had won the war, I'd estimate the death toll would have been 2-2.5x higher.
Jololo 10 月 22 日 下午 3:09 
引用自 Sauriel
wasnt the native indian genocide like, around 55 mill ? all the tribes were almost exterminated when us colonized
Depends on the estimates of pre columbian population it goes from 35 million to 110 million.
Most of the native american tribes were wipeout after the colonial era when the colonies went independent.
Jetstream Seum 10 月 22 日 下午 3:11 
引用自 Sauriel
wasnt the native indian genocide like, around 55 mill ? all the tribes were almost exterminated when us colonized

It was very high, though we'll never know the full casualty numbers. Most of these deaths are attributable to disease, which does not excuse the genocides but do make it impossible to know which nations were decimated before their existence was even thoroughly documented.

The Nazis' own plans for Eastern Europe were actually inspired by America's westward expansion. Lebensraum means "living space" in the literal sense, but I'd say a better cultural equivalent would be "Manifest Destiny".
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