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アンジェル 10 月 15 日 上午 2:03
Misconception about Military
Currently there are heated debates in my country, about whether civil service should be reinstated or not.

What I have noticed is that the majority of discussions is filled with strong misconceptions about the military. It gives the impression that the EU has grown stupid - as in how Bonhoeffer coined the term - after almost a century of peace.

Joining the military is not about joining the forces to kill - or worse - to die.

It is about learning how to take and take arms - so you do not have to use arms.

It is not about preparing for war and conquer.
It is not about learning to kill or not to get killed.
It is not about learning how to obey orders to die an honourable death.

In a world where there are other people, organisations and nations which do not hold back in attacking sovereignities to increase their power and influence, we need more than ever a solid method for deterrence.

Change through trade has failed us, as it was constantly sabotaged by U.S. foreign politics who did not understand how it works. Even more so those dictatorial - almost imperial - rulerships do not care about external influences.

Joining and serving the military is not joining to kill.

It is to show that we have our hands ready to fight back if we should be attacked.
It is to make those who wants to conquer think twice before attacking - making them rather not so.

The atomic stalemate has failed us, as it will never work against those in power who do not care about the wellbeing of their people.

That is why the need for conventional forces - or rather - the combat readiness is important.

You do not take arms to kill.
You do take arms to protect. To prevent.

You do not go to kill.
You do not go to die.

You do not want to die for your government? Then do not.

But what about your family? Your mother? Your sister? Your children?

You stay strong not just for yourself when you are in the military.
You stay strong for all the people who cannot. You are the defender of the weak.

It is not about the government if you join the military. It never was. It is always about the people you care about.

You do not even need to serve with a weapon. There are so many jobs which can also help, from being a chef all way to be a data analyst.

What is important is to know and understand how to defend yourself. And how to defend those you love.

Those discussions in my country all seem to forget about that. They keep thinking "military = killing machines without souls".

But every solider is human. Every soldiers is like you and me, having something to lose, something they want to protect. They stay strong for those who cannot.

If the enemy is at your doorstep and busting through your door - who is going to defend you?

That is why we always pay respect.
That is why we always honour.

In gratitude we know: all this lasting peace we were enjoying is not because we did not have any military. It is because we have military which deter our would-be-enemies and opportunists.

Whether in wartime. Or in peacetimes.
If you join the military, you do it with your loved ones in mind.
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WarHeRo 10 月 15 日 上午 2:05 
i think people do it for the cash
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アンジェル 10 月 15 日 上午 2:07 
引用自 WarHeRo：
i think people do it for the cash

I can understand that. Unless one mismanages their money, the military - over here - is paying a generous amount of money in addition of great education and health service.

Good incentives altogether during peacetimes.
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 2:12 
its about political posturing doomed to cause another war.
最后由 o 编辑于; 10 月 15 日 上午 2:13
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St✩rlight 10 月 15 日 上午 2:13 
So it's not about joining to kill or die, it's about preparing for when the government decides to kill or die you.
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WarHeRo 10 月 15 日 上午 2:15 
引用自 アンジェル：
引用自 WarHeRo：
i think people do it for the cash

I can understand that. Unless one mismanages their money, the military - over here - is paying a generous amount of money in addition of great education and health service.

Good incentives altogether during peacetimes.
in EU, u can earn twice in finance and science with half the effort. the pay is very low imo for people to take on the deals. but yea, the study opportunities are good.
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 2:20 
引用自 St✩rlight：
So it's not about joining to kill or die, it's about preparing for when the government decides to kill or die you.

its about giving them the idea that you could handle some kill and die and that they can then trade on this capability. which they will, because they are paying for it. thus why they want to spend some of the money they are already spending on training more recruits.
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Goldias 10 月 15 日 上午 2:35 
More like learning how to shut up, take order and stop questioning. :cozykcdaxe:
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 2:38 
引用自 Goldias：
More like learning how to shut up, take order and stop questioning. :cozykcdaxe:

you dont need a conscription program for that unless you are a foreign occupier.
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Rumpus 10 月 15 日 上午 2:41 
My government seems very adamant on exploiting an ageing workforce with immigrants while denying any chance at competing for property in an investor's market. What would in other developed parts of the world be described as sabotage is in actuality the most severe level of incompetence ever witnessed in first world nation. If my own nation can't even guarantee a bed then I think it would be more wise to take up pitchforks instead of rifles.
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 3:02 
引用自 Rumpus：
My government seems very adamant on exploiting an ageing workforce with immigrants while denying any chance at competing for property in an investor's market. What would in other developed parts of the world be described as sabotage is in actuality the most severe level of incompetence ever witnessed in first world nation. If my own nation can't even guarantee a bed then I think it would be more wise to take up pitchforks instead of rifles.

pitchforks are a weapon they will simply shoot you.
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Reddari 10 月 15 日 上午 3:09 
Its about being a pedophile supporter. All militaries have their black divisions whose purpose is to acquire human resources for industry. As regular recruit or even regular career soldier - your job is either expose human resources by bombing their homes or killing parents or keep an area secure while the black operatives go in and acquire human resources.
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 3:11 
引用自 Reddari：
Its about being a pedophile supporter. All militaries have their black divisions whose purpose is to acquire human resources for industry. As regular recruit or even regular career soldier - your job is either expose human resources by bombing their homes or killing parents or keep an area secure while the black operatives go in and acquire human resources.

those are permanent attaches operating out of denationalized pmcs.

theyll investigate their death if you accidentally shoot one, but nobody investigates the children they traffick.
最后由 o 编辑于; 10 月 15 日 上午 3:12
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Rumpus 10 月 15 日 上午 3:16 
引用自 o：
引用自 Rumpus：
My government seems very adamant on exploiting an ageing workforce with immigrants while denying any chance at competing for property in an investor's market. What would in other developed parts of the world be described as sabotage is in actuality the most severe level of incompetence ever witnessed in first world nation. If my own nation can't even guarantee a bed then I think it would be more wise to take up pitchforks instead of rifles.

pitchforks are a weapon they will simply shoot you.
Maybe if there were armed militias operating in large urban centres they would, but no. It's not in any military's interest to fight civilians outside of extreme cases. The army is not going to roll up to the CBD in tanks and fighter jets and glass their own infrastructure just because of a few rebel groups unless it is completely, 100% fubar. This is how insurgencies in fringe cases end up subduing or outright overthrowing conventional police and even establish themselves as de-facto militias. (see Syria).
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o 10 月 15 日 上午 3:20 
引用自 Rumpus：
引用自 o：

pitchforks are a weapon they will simply shoot you.
Maybe if there were armed militias operating in large urban centres they would, but no. It's not in any military's interest to fight civilians outside of extreme cases. The army is not going to roll up to the CBD in tanks and fighter jets and glass their own infrastructure just because of a few rebel groups unless it is completely, 100% fubar. This is how insurgencies in fringe cases end up subduing or outright overthrowing conventional police and even establish themselves as de-facto militias. (see Syria).

they will gas you and blow your eyes out with rubber bullets, firing blindly into the gas.

just like you are doing.
最后由 o 编辑于; 10 月 15 日 上午 3:20
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udidwht 10 月 15 日 下午 6:31 
I'm all for reinstating the draft. Everyone who turns 18 or graduates from high school should serve a MANDATORY 4 years in one of the (4) branches of service. No exceptions unless medically or mentally unfit.
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