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Copperfield [SAC] (Verbannen) 14 mrt 2023 om 13:55
Why is US education system failing?
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Origineel geplaatst door MistuhG:
Because the left destroyed it like they destroy literally *everything* they take control of. They care more about indoctrinating children with radical trash like 'critical race theory' or gender studies, instead of teaching actual useful knowledge that people can build a career out of in the real world. And they declared math was racist or something (yeah, they are completely nutters).

More funding to teach more garbage won't fix it. And corrupt leftist teachers shouldn't be rewarded for abusing their positions (and the students) to teach their personal radical ideology. It needs a good purging.
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The education system is failing here in Canada too, it failed me , so it could be everywhere

I'm on disability for life for my dyslexia and being a slow learner or lack of education, most of my school mates are either in jail, or drug addicts or on disability like me, I had people in my home room with tourette's syndrome, two with it and one guy had a extreme case of it, teachers used to send him out of class to the stair way;s with a desk because he was just to loud and intrusive and you could still hear him echoing from the stair way exit's!..
Laatst bewerkt door craigsters; 14 mrt 2023 om 14:15
yes my sister got expelled from school for sleeping in class.. and im not joking she literally got kicked out
because it sucks
Because the public school system is a monopoly that's not accountable to anyone. In the business world if you do a cruddy job you'll go out of business. In the education world if 90% of your students aren't successful after graduation, no one will notice or care.
Has nothing to do with education.
Because it has been systematically underfunded and politicized by the right for decades, coupled with the inherent inequality of tying school budgets to local property taxes.
Laatst bewerkt door Grimble Grumble; 14 mrt 2023 om 14:17
Failing? I thought it did 20 years ago.

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It is not failing, you just misunderstand its purpose.
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MistuhG 14 mrt 2023 om 14:29 
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Because the left destroyed it like they destroy literally *everything* they take control of. They care more about indoctrinating children with radical trash like 'critical race theory' or gender studies, instead of teaching actual useful knowledge that people can build a career out of in the real world. And they declared math was racist or something (yeah, they are completely nutters).

More funding to teach more garbage won't fix it. And corrupt leftist teachers shouldn't be rewarded for abusing their positions (and the students) to teach their personal radical ideology. It needs a good purging.
The competition against personal homeschooling is weaker than ever.
Origineel geplaatst door Othobrithol:
Because it has been systematically underfunded and politicized by the right for decades, coupled with the inherent inequality of tying school budgets to local property taxes.
Except that's a bait. The right believe in something called school choice. Which is giving everyone a tax credit and allowing them to pick whatever school they want.

The left supports keeping people in their district and not having school choice and keeping it based on property taxes, but it gets worse. Groups like BLM who do 2-3 billion dollars worth of damages, are directly impacting schools.

Nah, the problem with schools is they went woke, and now they're broke.

They'd rather focus on ideological and political causes then actually teaching the kids. In California they had failing test scores for latino and black students and instead of trying to help those groups out more, they lowered the testing requirements and started teaching more ideological things instead of the meat and potatoes.
Politicians.
Origineel geplaatst door Wan₫erlust ☄:
Simple.
Teaching is not a valued profession.

In other places like Japan, the pay is high and subsequently, the competition is steep to be a teacher. Hence, the cream of the crop get the role. Here in the states, being a teacher isn’t worth it. The pay is low, so those who are good teachers, self-included, pass on the role, as there is no money in the professiont, unless you are a college professor. Half of the teachers I had in middle/high school were terrible- even taught a lesson once in middle school because my teacher couldn’t perform proper algebra…


For 2021-22, starting salaries for teachers range from $61,070 (bachelor's degree, no prior teaching experience) to $83,972 (master's degree, eight years teaching experience, without additional coursework). New teachers with a master's degree but no prior teaching experience will earn $68,252

That plus
The typical teacher in the United States works 180 or so days annually.

https://teachnyc.net/about-our-schools/salary-and-benefits#:~:text=For%202021-22%2C%20starting%20salaries,teaching%20experience%20will%20earn%20%2468%2C252.


Maybe has to do with something else which is called neoptism, political favoritism and hiring not based on meritology but political interest.
Laatst bewerkt door EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ; 14 mrt 2023 om 14:42
Homeschooling sounds like a good idealistic choice to protect Jimmy from the evils of other people's opinions, but given how most parents are already doing a piss-poor job of educating and socializing their offspring, somehow I just can't see how removing the university educated professional is going to help Jimmy in the long run.

Origineel geplaatst door Tucker Carlson:
Origineel geplaatst door Othobrithol:
Because it has been systematically underfunded and politicized by the right for decades, coupled with the inherent inequality of tying school budgets to local property taxes.
Except that's a bait.

I disagree wholeheartedly, but I've argued against your nonsense on these forums enough to know you are intransigently partisan, so have a nice life.
Origineel geplaatst door EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ:
Origineel geplaatst door Wan₫erlust ☄:
Simple.
Teaching is not a valued profession.

In other places like Japan, the pay is high and subsequently, the competition is steep to be a teacher. Hence, the cream of the crop get the role. Here in the states, being a teacher isn’t worth it. The pay is low, so those who are good teachers, self-included, pass on the role, as there is no money in the professiont, unless you are a college professor. Half of the teachers I had in middle/high school were terrible- even taught a lesson once in middle school because my teacher couldn’t perform proper algebra…


For 2021-22, starting salaries for teachers range from $61,070 (bachelor's degree, no prior teaching experience) to $83,972 (master's degree, eight years teaching experience, without additional coursework). New teachers with a master's degree but no prior teaching experience will earn $68,252

https://teachnyc.net/about-our-schools/salary-and-benefits#:~:text=For%202021-22%2C%20starting%20salaries,teaching%20experience%20will%20earn%20%2468%2C252.


Maybe has to do with something else which is called neoptism, political favoritism.
I'd agree with that. I wanted to be a teachers but was lead to understand that as a right-winger my opinions wouldn't be welcome and I'd likely have to hide that part of myself. I'm fine with not seeing ANY politics but if it's one sided that'd be a real drag.

People say that teachers are underpaid but if we look at it, it's actually a pretty sweet position. Good starting pay. Easy hours, easy work. Summers off. Most holiday's off. The one job that gets easy snow days.

The pandemic essentially taught us that many teachers jobs are borderline obsolent
Laatst bewerkt door The Father ☯; 14 mrt 2023 om 14:41
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