Is gradient (banding) being visible normal on IPS monitors?
Just got myself a new budget IPS monitor MSI G242L E14 1080p 144Hz, and it looks so much smoother, more vivid, and somehow sharper than the VA CoolerMaster GA241 1080p 100Hz.

However, I noticed some gradient (or banding, English is not my native language) in some moments such as Spotify and my Steam profile, and some games such as when The Last of Us Part II is loading.

Is this a normal thing with IPS monitors in general, or did I get unlucky with my choice? I know I bought a cheap monitor, but my disability doesn't pay me much and I have to pay for the internet and groceries, so I had to settle with the best option within my budget range.
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Dom 11 月 20 日 下午 11:27 
Some branding on IPS monitors is completely normal and not a sign of defect. I've noticed this with every IPS I've ever had but by changing monitor settings I've been able to mitigate it and it has never bothered me to an extent where I would consider it an issue.

If branding is excessive then it may warrant a change or a refund but it rarely is.
最后由 Dom 编辑于; 11 月 20 日 下午 11:27
SiberianLeon 11 月 20 日 下午 11:29 
引用自 Dom
Some branding on IPS monitors is completely normal and not a sign of defect. I've noticed this with every IPS I've ever had but by changing monitor settings I've been able to mitigate it and it has never bothered me to an extent where I would consider it an issue.

If branding is excessive then it may warrant a change or a refund but it rarely is.
How do you do that? I couldn't find cohesive answers online, so I'm looking for help here.
最后由 SiberianLeon 编辑于; 11 月 20 日 下午 11:29
Set-115689 11 月 20 日 下午 11:29 
To an extent in my opinion.

Try playing around with the brightness, contrast, etc... in the monitors menu. They are usually not very well set up initially.

There's also free calibration tests. Youtube might have some tests?

Windows has calibration settings/tests but every time you reinstall windows you'll have to do it again. Press windows key and type calibrate and select it.
最后由 Set-115689 编辑于; 11 月 20 日 下午 11:31
Dom 11 月 20 日 下午 11:33 
引用自 SiberianLeon
引用自 Dom
Some branding on IPS monitors is completely normal and not a sign of defect. I've noticed this with every IPS I've ever had but by changing monitor settings I've been able to mitigate it and it has never bothered me to an extent where I would consider it an issue.

If branding is excessive then it may warrant a change or a refund but it rarely is.
How do you do that? I couldn't find cohesive answers online, so I'm looking for help here.
You can adjust settings directly with the buttons behind the monitor. Alternatively you can use software. For example if you have NVIDIA GPU, you can use NVIDIA App to change the color/brightness settings of the monitor. Or NVIDIA Control Panel works too...

The former stores the settings to the monitor, the latter stores it to software/OS.
最后由 Dom 编辑于; 11 月 20 日 下午 11:34
SiberianLeon 11 月 20 日 下午 11:38 
引用自 Dom
引用自 SiberianLeon
How do you do that? I couldn't find cohesive answers online, so I'm looking for help here.
You can adjust settings directly with the buttons behind the monitor. Alternatively you can use software. For example if you have NVIDIA GPU, you can use NVIDIA App to change the color/brightness settings of the monitor. Or NVIDIA Control Panel works too...

The former stores the settings to the monitor, the latter stores it to software/OS.
I'm on AMD, and I found online that there's a dithering option that is enabled by default, but I couldn't find it in the Adrenalin settings.

引用自 Set-115689
To an extent in my opinion.

Try playing around with the brightness, contrast, etc... in the monitors menu. They are usually not very well set up initially.

There's also free calibration tests. Youtube might have some tests?

Windows has calibration settings/tests but every time you reinstall windows you'll have to do it again. Press windows key and type calibrate and select it.
I also tried Windows 11's calibration tool, but I couldn't figure out how to set it up correctly, so I just pressed cancel. Thanks for the tips though.
wing0zero 11 月 21 日 上午 12:16 
Probably just an 8 bit panel, if really budget maybe even 6 bit with FRC to simulate 8 bit.
This is where the banding comes from, buy a real 10 bit panel for less banding.
SiberianLeon 11 月 21 日 上午 12:46 
引用自 wing0zero
Probably just an 8 bit panel, if really budget maybe even 6 bit with FRC to simulate 8 bit.
This is where the banding comes from, buy a real 10 bit panel for less banding.
Yep, it's really 6 bit with FRC. I should've made more research, sigh...

Seems like 10 bit monitors are really expensive, so I hope I'll live with what I've got.
最后由 SiberianLeon 编辑于; 11 月 21 日 上午 12:50
Bad 💀 Motha 11 月 21 日 上午 12:57 
引用自 SiberianLeon
引用自 Dom
Some branding on IPS monitors is completely normal and not a sign of defect. I've noticed this with every IPS I've ever had but by changing monitor settings I've been able to mitigate it and it has never bothered me to an extent where I would consider it an issue.

If branding is excessive then it may warrant a change or a refund but it rarely is.
How do you do that? I couldn't find cohesive answers online, so I'm looking for help here.

How to change Monitor settings? It's common sense that all users will have to make some changes to these via the Dsiplays OSD menu system. If done right the only time you should see anymore banding is when a bright color like Yellow or White perhaps is displayed for the entire screen.

Use Dark Mode everywhere in your OS and apps and you won't even notice it anymore
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 11 月 21 日 上午 12:58
Set-115689 11 月 21 日 上午 12:59 
Also display port, hdmi, etc... might provide different images.

maybe? There used to be a webpage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waUahh8DG4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b3CUm8j4DE&list=PLbUGKRd2bI_Eenv5iPO85RzxuKR-1uQef
wing0zero 11 月 21 日 上午 1:01 
引用自 SiberianLeon
引用自 wing0zero
Probably just an 8 bit panel, if really budget maybe even 6 bit with FRC to simulate 8 bit.
This is where the banding comes from, buy a real 10 bit panel for less banding.
Yep, it's really 6 bit with FRC. I should've made more research, sigh...

Seems like 10 bit monitors are really expensive, so I hope I'll live with what I've got.
Be fine in action when gaming.
Bad 💀 Motha 11 月 21 日 上午 1:11 
If NVIDIA GPU always try to use DisplayPort 1.4 or newer specs and ensure DP Cable is also 1.4 or newer.

Once in your OS go into NVIDIA CP and where there is Change Screen Res in there, change the Color Format and Range to RGB + FULL. And if it's on 8bit, change it to 10bit
Masque 11 月 21 日 下午 7:35 
After reading this thread I just discovered that my DGVIEW390 is only 8 bit color.

Now I know why there's hideous banding on a lot of the title screens for my games.

I also discovered that it's insanely difficult to search for 10 bit color monitors, let alone specifically 10 bit color 1400p 39" monitors, since absolutely nobody selling monitors lists the bit depths, so you have to go ask Grok or Bing "does the 272635BF72G have 10 bit color?" on every single monitor you might be interested in.

Not even the spec sheet, at least for my monitor, mentions anything about bit depth.

It's very frustrating, looking for a monitor.

(Aside, I made it up, but why can't they stop naming their monitors things like 272635BF72G? Imagine if cars had those names. Can't they just call it the, I dunno, 2025 Orion 27 or something? Gah!)
wing0zero 11 月 22 日 上午 4:38 
引用自 Masque
I also discovered that it's insanely difficult to search for 10 bit color monitors,
HDR you need a 10 bit panel although budget HDR monitors still use 8 bit with FRC, even some OLED monitors so yeah can be tricky.
Bad 💀 Motha 11 月 22 日 上午 4:51 
8 bit vs 10 bit not a big deal really. Probably lacks 10 bit if it's a non HDR Display so not to worry. The bigger issue is changing to the RGB + FULL because if this is on Limited all the colors and black looks washed out.

Then if you feel the need you can edit a profile preset in the Monitor OSD Menu to allow for better contrast, gamma, color temp, black level, color saturation, etc.
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 11 月 22 日 上午 4:52
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