PC usually freezes when alt tabbing after CPU upgrade

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Nonebit 10 月 18 日上午 5:11

Bought a 14600KF like 2 weeks ago as an upgrade to my I3-12100 and i keep facing an issue where if i alt tab from anything (doesn't matter if it's a game, a web browser or just the file explorer) the cursor will start lagging out for like 10 seconds and after that, the entire PC freezes. After a minute of just waiting, the PC automatically restarts itself. Just wanna mention that this is more or so random whenever it happens and it usually does so when the PC is already turned on and running for more than an hour.

Things that i have already tried doing that didn't fix my issue:
Reinstalling windows
Updating my BIOS
Unplugging and re-plugging all of my display cables once the PC freezes
Setting the CPU power limit back to 65W

Specs:
H610M-G (Not that it matters that much but i did install copper heatsinks with thermal pads on the VRMs without shorting out the motherboard in any way whatsoever)
16x2 Kingston Fury Beast 3200mhz CL16
4060
A650GL
2 NVMe drives
1 SATA SSD
1 2.5 inch HDD

Any help would be appreciated!

最后由 Nonebit 编辑于; 10 月 18 日上午 5:13

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ˢᵈˣ FatCat 10 月 18 日上午 5:17

let start with just use 1 RAM, maybe your cpu doesnt like your ram, the 2nd is PSU problem

emoticorpse 10 月 18 日上午 5:23

Is the cpu you bought new or used?

Nonebit 10 月 18 日上午 5:28

引用自 ˢᵈˣ FatCat：
let start with just use 1 RAM, maybe your cpu doesnt like your ram, the 2nd is PSU problem

Will try that right now.

引用自 emoticorpse：
Is the cpu you bought new or used?

Brand new with 3 years of warranty.

emoticorpse 10 月 18 日上午 5:35

引用自 Nonebit：
引用自 ˢᵈˣ FatCat：
let start with just use 1 RAM, maybe your cpu doesnt like your ram, the 2nd is PSU problem
Will try that right now.

引用自 emoticorpse：
Is the cpu you bought new or used?
Brand new with 3 years of warranty.

I really couldn't guess what the problem is. I suppose one of the things you can do (but sucks and might end up a waste of time) is to re-install your old cpu to see if this is an actual permanent problem now seen with both cpu's to rule out if it's something isolated to the new cpu itself and at the same time maybe even re-installing the new cpu right after to see if somehow it magically gets corrected).

Otherwise seems hard to guess if it's totally random and happens after around an hour. Does it shut down any quicker if you run stress tests?

Nonebit 10 月 18 日上午 5:38

引用自 emoticorpse：
引用自 Nonebit：
Will try that right now.

Brand new with 3 years of warranty.

I really couldn't guess what the problem is. I suppose one of the things you can do (but sucks and might end up a waste of time) is to re-install your old cpu to see if this is an actual permanent problem now seen with both cpu's to rule out if it's something isolated to the new cpu itself and at the same time maybe even re-installing the new cpu right after to see if somehow it magically gets corrected).

Otherwise seems hard to guess if it's totally random and happens after around an hour. Does it shut down any quicker if you run stress tests?

It's gonna take a while yeah, especially when i got an LGA 1700 bracket and a dual tower to take out. Judging by other people that had written about having this same issue, it does indeed "fix" the freezing. Gonna try to just take out one stick from my current 32 gig kit, if it keeps freezing then i will simply just use a spare 8x2 kit to see if that fixes anything.

最后由 Nonebit 编辑于; 10 月 18 日上午 5:39

_I_ 10 月 18 日上午 6:17

very poor mobo, not really designed for an i5/i7 cpu

update drivers
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-H610M-G-DDR4/support#driver
chipset, lan, audio

Illusion of Progress 10 月 18 日上午 6:24

Did you add the VRM heatsinks at the same time you changed the CPU.

If so, there may be no way to tell if this resulted in the issues you're facing. Removing them may or not change it (potential damage already done would remain done), and the old CPU has lower power draw and may not expose it either. But, you can try either of those things if you wish.

Julien, cut it out. 10 月 18 日上午 6:25

Archive (.zip) and upload the minidump(s). The minidumps (.dmp) are stored in the Minidump folder of the Windows installation folder.

Nonebit 10 月 18 日上午 6:44

引用自 _I_：
very poor mobo, not really designed for an i5/i7 cpu

update drivers
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-H610M-G-DDR4/support#driver
chipset, lan, audio

Already did all of that unfortunately.

引用自 Illusion of Progress：
Did you add the VRM heatsinks at the same time you changed the CPU.

If so, there may be no way to tell if this resulted in the issues you're facing. Removing them may or not change it (potential damage already done would remain done), and the old CPU has lower power draw and may not expose it either. But, you can try either of those things if you wish.

Nope, i added the VRM heatsinks **after** the PC started freezing like this due to the alt tabbing, the heatsinks didn't reduce or increase the amount of crashes though.

引用自 Julien, cut it out.：
Archive (.zip) and upload the minidump(s). The minidumps (.dmp) are stored in the Minidump folder of the Windows installation folder.

Uploaded it on pixeldrain. Here's the url code: /u/rBESQARF

Illusion of Progress 10 月 18 日上午 6:55

If you added the VRM heatsinks later, then you can reasonably assume your changes aren't related. That would narrow it down to the CPU. So either that individual CPU has an issue (would need another 14600K to test this), or your motherboard isn't supporting it well due to the increased power needs.

The heatsinks will only help if the VRMs are capable of supplying the needed power, and only failing to do so because they are throttling. If they are incapable of it to begin with, the heatsinks won't do anything.

So _I_ may have the correct answer and that motherboard just might not be well suited for that CPU.

最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 10 月 18 日上午 6:56

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wing0zero 10 月 18 日上午 6:56

Can you play a game just fine for hours if you don't tab out?

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Illusion of Progress 10 月 18 日上午 6:57

Also, have you tried disabling XMP to see if that's related? (I should have asked this in my first post.)

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Bad 💀 Motha 10 月 18 日下午 8:26

Start by going into BIOS and select Optimized Defaults and save and exit. Then do some stress tests in your OS and see how it does

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Nonebit 10 月 19 日上午 3:54

引用自 Illusion of Progress：
If you added the VRM heatsinks later, then you can reasonably assume your changes aren't related. That would narrow it down to the CPU. So either that individual CPU has an issue (would need another 14600K to test this), or your motherboard isn't supporting it well due to the increased power needs.

The heatsinks will only help if the VRMs are capable of supplying the needed power, and only failing to do so because they are throttling. If they are incapable of it to begin with, the heatsinks won't do anything.

So _I_ may have the correct answer and that motherboard just might not be well suited for that CPU.

Strange thing about that is how the PC ran fine for the first two weeks regardless. I'm still clueless on how that happened.

引用自 wing0zero：
Can you play a game just fine for hours if you don't tab out?

I binged switching Battlefield 4 and 1 for like 5 hours straight yesterday and the PC did freeze when i launched Gray Zone Warfare (a way more demanding game). After i restarted my PC, i did re-launch gray zone and the game worked fine anyway.

引用自 Illusion of Progress：
Also, have you tried disabling XMP to see if that's related? (I should have asked this in my first post.)

Disabled XMP and it still crashed unfortunately.

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：
Start by going into BIOS and select Optimized Defaults and save and exit. Then do some stress tests in your OS and see how it does

Already did that (i even popped the CMOS battery) and it still crashes :(

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Bad 💀 Motha 10 月 19 日上午 5:31

Since it worked fine at some point with the new CPU installed let's do a test.

Disconnect just your SATA drives for now. Then power up and retest the PC again.

You can simply disconnect the sata data cable from the Motherboard side only in order to do this temporarily

Once in OS download and run the latest verison of DDU

Load that up and change options to allow Safe Mode. Exit the options and ddu app. Relaunch the app and select safe mode + restart from the ddu popup

Once in safe mode and in DDU, select each brand of Graphics one at time, clicking Clean but do not Shutdown/Restart

After all 3 GPU types are wiped out, reboot normally.

Then download and install latest drivers from INTEL via https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

When all done installing those, reboot and install latest for your GPU. Reboot once more when done.

最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 10 月 19 日上午 5:35

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