Shadow-79 11 月 13 日 下午 5:03
RTX 5080/90 Mobile vs Desktop: is there really any difference?
On gaming laptops (ASUS, Razer, MSI, etc.), the ones that have U9 (Intel) / Ryzen CPU's as their main processors. Let's say for a CPU intensive game such as Minecraft with mods (200+ modpack with shaders), would "5080/90 Mobile" really hold up whilst being played on a laptop but the plus side is that it remains portable (although expensive, as they are ₩7,000,000+).

Does that mean gaming laptops are "bad" just because there are compromises to accept? In terms of desktop PC's: you can upgrade the graphics card (again they are not cheap) but they are not portable (meaning you can't take it with you). I've heard that VRAM is higher on desktop than laptop (32GB vs 24GB), so: does that mean laptop variants of either 5080/90 are "crap"?
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C1REX 11 月 13 日 下午 5:23 
Laptop parts can in some cases offer completely different performance levels comparing to desktop counterparts.

Laptop 5090 offers about half of desktop 5090 performance but at a fraction of power consumption and with some level of portability.
Numlock587 11 月 13 日 下午 6:05 
Unless you know how to cram every ounce of speed. Out of a laptop. Your idea of gaming on it will be short. It's good to game on a laptop for a year. Then gets left behind.

Desktop is best you can upgrade it to a better performance
最后由 Numlock587 编辑于; 11 月 13 日 下午 6:06
kilésengati 11 月 13 日 下午 7:04 
Gaming laptops of that calibre should be regarded more as portable computers rather than mobile gaming machines. Unless you completely switch off the dGPU, the battery will drain phenomenally fast, so you have to use it plugged-in anyway when going full speed.

Also, even if the chips were exactly the same - iirc, they were on the 10-series but then they made the mobile chips a little different from the desktop counterparts again - they are ultimately limited by the thermal constraints of the cramped laptop form factor and limited power supply capability of the overall design.
It is good practice to regard mobile GPUs one or two classes below of what they are branded. So a 5080 Mobile would be more likely in the realms of a 5060 to 5070 desktop-equivalent + extra VRAM, depending on the laptop.

They are not completely pointless though.
If you are travelling a lot but get periods of rest where you want decent gaming performance (trucker, seafarer, construction worker, travelling businessman, etc.) or if you need a portable machine that can be a beast on demand (for example studying natural sciences or media), gaming laptops can be a good option for you, but might not always will be.
The existence of eGPUs nowadays also makes it less of a necessity to lug around a big and power hungry dGPU all the time.

Also, in some places, laptops might be an easier tax write-off for work and studies than a desktop PC at home, so there is that. But that's no tax nor legal advice. :D
最后由 kilésengati 编辑于; 11 月 13 日 下午 7:06
The top desktop graphics chips allow for the level of performance they do because they are using an increasing amount of watts compared to before. Laptops have much lower power allowance. Therefore, the top mobile SKUs in particular do not come close to matching the performance of their desktop counterparts. I think the RTX 5090 mobile is closer to an RTX 5070 desktop or so? (Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I know mobile variants are quite a bit less performant than their desktop counterparts.) I wouldn't call that level of performance bad though.

The same goes for CPUs. They have lower wattage allowances compared to desktop counterparts.

The wattage budget is sometimes shared between the CPU and GPU.

Minecraft is typically very CPU limited, but it tends to become very GPU limited (and also much more CPU heavy) when playing with shaders. Your frame rate will likely drop to a fraction of what it is without them because of how they work. The game simply isn't designed for real-time lighting, so implementing it has a severe performance cost. But since the game can run so well without them anyway, it's one that can often be absorbed.

Since Minecraft is simultaneously a game that can bring the best hardware to its knees while also running on pretty much anything, it means you can usually adjust its settings (and sometimes your expectations) to get good results with it. The game will run well on the best laptops from today, but be aware you may need to be reasonable about some things.

If you don't need the portability or space savings, I'd consider a desktop. But as long as you aren't bothered by not having the same level of performance a desktop RTX 5090 delivers, the laptop may be preferable to you.
DeadPhoenix 11 月 14 日 上午 7:05 
RTX 5080 Laptop is on par with a RTX 5070 but with more VRAM. 5090 Laptop is closer to a 5080, but still not quite there yet. But it has More VRAM.
SHREDDER 11 月 14 日 上午 7:28 
of course there are. The reason laptop are so small is because they have very small components compared to destkkp
The other limiations of laptops is that they can not be upgraded except ssd while on desktop we do any upgrradre we want any time we want. The RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL that i have for example, is 360MM card and it released in 2021. On the 2017 case that ihave Aerocool 800 it barely fits as it takes the whole case(it fits up to 390mm graphics card). Since 5080 desktop is lot more powerful than mine card you can understand that it is impossiblet o fit such a powerful card on such small box like a laptop.
_I_ 11 月 14 日 上午 7:48 
they are nowhere near the same gpu

5080 desktop
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217

5080 mobile
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080-mobile.c4236

desktop mobile cores 10752 7680 rt cores 84 60 tmu 336 240 rop 112 96 tdp 360w 80w FP32 (float) 56.28 TFLOPS 23.04 TFLOPS FP64 (double) 879.3 GFLOPS 360.0 GFLOPS
最后由 _I_ 编辑于; 11 月 14 日 上午 7:48
hackintoshchap 11 月 14 日 上午 8:59 
引用自 Shadow-79
RTX 5080/90 Mobile vs Desktop: is there really any difference?

The only thin that is similar is the nvidia naming of a desktop card and laptop model with the same name. Performance wise they are miles apart.
smokerob79 11 月 14 日 上午 9:19 
the mobile 5090 is between the desktop versions of the 5060ti 16gb and a 6800xt in performance....

yikes....my 5 year old 3080 has a 5% performance lead

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090-mobile.c4235
smokerob79 11 月 14 日 上午 9:28 
wow.....after reading replies so many of you miss the fact most of the parts in laptops are left over flawed desktop parts.....CPU's that could not hit boost clocks to defective GPU's that never met the standard of the desktop versions....

when the flawed chips are still to power hungry we end up with things like the 5700x3d that is really a 5800x3d with cores that wont hit the same clock speeds....or the 5600x3d that had 1 or 2 whole cores that just did not work right.....
HeyYou 11 月 14 日 上午 9:45 
Laptop hardware has limitations due to size, power, and heat. A laptop will never beat the performance of even a lower tier desktop. To my mind, "gaming" and "laptop" don't belong in the same sentence.

That said, you can get decent performance from a laptop, but, it ain't cheap..... and tends to be problematic. (overheating, etc.) Short battery life while gaming is also a given....
smallcat 11 月 14 日 上午 9:49 
@smokerob79 , my old PC has i3 10100F and i can assure you it s rock solid . 5 y old
HeyYou 11 月 14 日 上午 9:51 
引用自 smallcat
@smokerob79 , my old PC has i3 10100F and i can assure you it s rock solid . 5 y old
An i3 is NOT what I consider a gaming processor.......
smallcat 11 月 14 日 上午 9:55 
引用自 HeyYou
引用自 smallcat
@smokerob79 , my old PC has i3 10100F and i can assure you it s rock solid . 5 y old
An i3 is NOT what I consider a gaming processor.......
i understand your point . but it s like i7 years ago . As of now i3 13100F/14100F are better budget options . i have Ryzen 7 AM5 in my new rig
HeyYou 11 月 14 日 上午 10:02 
引用自 smallcat
引用自 HeyYou
An i3 is NOT what I consider a gaming processor.......
i understand your point . but it s like i7 years ago . As of now i3 13100F/14100F are better budget options . i have Ryzen 7 AM5 in my new rig
If you are playing on hardware that old, where an i3 is a better proc than your i7...... You are WAY behind the hardware curve.... and likely running hardware that won't run 11 either..... But, I suppose that all depends on what games you play....... If you want to play modern, high demand games though, neither the older i7, nor the newer i3, is going to give you a good experience.....
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