how much did it cost you .only the GPU is 600 bucks

It's clearly not intended for people with a lot more money to burn that knows how to build a SFF machine themselves. It's also intended primarily for people who intend to use SteamOS, otherwise they would just be using Windows.

An equivalent tier GPU can cost as much as the entire machine probably will, you're not building anything as good as that for the same price that Valve is going to be selling theirs.

Building an identical configuration in 2025 would be ill-advised either way because LGA1200 is a dead end, the 4070 is seldom worth the cost, H-series Intel motherboards are cheap junk that'll hold back an unlocked SKU, cooler is poorly equipped for more than current locked Intel i5s or lower end Ryzen at best.

considering how many people buy laptops (?) , Steam machine should be selling well .far faster in many cases

I recently built a PC with a mix of new and used parts. Here's the list:

Ryzen 5 5500
Asrock B450m/AC R2.0 - cpu + mb bundle $130
32 GB ram (Silicon Power 3600mhz cas18) - $100
512GB ssd (T-force Vulcan) - $30
Radeon Vega 64 (ebay) - $80
Apevia Prestige 800w pso - $60
DIYPC F2-P case - $40

Total: $440

If the new steam machine is $400 or less, it'll be an ok value. If it's ~$600, it'll be a big miss.

Steam Machene should be 15% faster alike ,so 440 x1.15= 506 . But it d have warranty and DDR5 should add to the 3D perf as well

Vega 64 is 295W uh oh

引用自 smallcat：

Steam Machene should be 34% faster at least ,so 440 x1.34= 590

Vega 64 is 295W uh oh

Pretty sure the new steam machine is using an RX 7600M gpu or something close to it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7600m.c4014

Almost the same performance as a Vega 64. Will have the advantage of a much newer architecture obv, but the performance diff in raster won't be large.

Also lets be honest, ppl don't care about power draw unless they under-spec their psu and it dies.

GPU is reported to be RX 7600-level . AMD has Radeon 8060S as well in their lineup

edit
i dug deeper
the Steam machine GPU in terms of performance should be between Radeon 7600M and RX 7600 .

Might be cheaper up-front but you're paying more in the long run due to power consumption, the entire machine Valve is going to be selling is only using around 200W, a Vega 64 alone uses easily 300W.

Other hidden costs include hardware failures which with used hardware means you're probably getting zero support for that, and I just wouldn't trust a Vega card given they drop like flies when you push them too hard after years of regular use. Polaris too, they were used in mining rigs due to their low cost, but they failed in ridiculous numbers. Radeon's quality wasn't actually great until RDNA, when they actually started becoming competitive again.

Apevia power supplies are also low quality garbage, more likely to fail and needing to be replaced, could potentially take other components with it. Cheaping out isn't worth it to a degree.

引用自 r.linder：

Might be cheaper up-front but you're paying more in the long run due to power consumption, the entire machine Valve is going to be selling is only using around 200W, a Vega 64 alone uses easily 300W.

Other hidden costs include hardware failures which with used hardware means you're probably getting zero support for that, and I just wouldn't trust a Vega card given they drop like flies when you push them too hard after years of regular use. Polaris too, they were used in mining rigs due to their low cost, but they failed in ridiculous numbers. Radeon's quality wasn't actually great until RDNA, when they actually started becoming competitive again.

Apevia power supplies are also low quality garbage, more likely to fail and needing to be replaced, could potentially take other components with it. Cheaping out isn't worth it to a degree.

ok, we've clearly side-barred here, but let's go:
I've never seen the Vega 64 draw 300w. Normal usage is around 180-200, 235 in UE4 games (undervolting ftw).

Vegas are solid for years. This particular gpu has been one of the most reliable I've owned. Key to the longevity is knowing not to run the HBM higher than its degradation temperature (which is 85C), preferably a few degrees lower.

Apevia Prestige power supplies - SPECIFICALLY the Prestige line - are good psu's. They're manufactured by Andyson which isn't as good as Super Flower but is still a solid brand.

引用自 AbedsBrother：

引用自 r.linder：

Might be cheaper up-front but you're paying more in the long run due to power consumption, the entire machine Valve is going to be selling is only using around 200W, a Vega 64 alone uses easily 300W.

Other hidden costs include hardware failures which with used hardware means you're probably getting zero support for that, and I just wouldn't trust a Vega card given they drop like flies when you push them too hard after years of regular use. Polaris too, they were used in mining rigs due to their low cost, but they failed in ridiculous numbers. Radeon's quality wasn't actually great until RDNA, when they actually started becoming competitive again.

Apevia power supplies are also low quality garbage, more likely to fail and needing to be replaced, could potentially take other components with it. Cheaping out isn't worth it to a degree.

Apevia Prestige power supplies - SPECIFICALLY the Prestige line - are good psu's. They're manufactured by Andyson which isn't as good as Super Flower but is still a solid brand.

I wouldn't classify a tier C as "good" as much as I would classify it as operable, but there's so many tier Cs out there that aren't from a brand that mostly sells trash and works with more seasoned OEMs like CWT.

For the record, the Prestige series is NOT made by Andyson primarily, it's produced by Guang Hai, designated as the GH356 platform. You can't trust these brands to stick to a single supplier, Thermaltake SMART 80+ White units are made by so many different suppliers that they can't even trace them all.

Every other Apevia unit series that's been looked at enough has been either Tier E or F, the entire brand is pretty predatory in that they mostly just sell garbage quality equipment at a "low" cost to nail suckers. A lot of brands do this; ARESGAME/Pystar, GameMax, and Apexgaming to name a few... kind of a common theme with these guys to include "game" or "gaming" in their branding because they're trying to get gamers on a budget and unwitting parents.

引用自 AbedsBrother：

I recently built a PC with a mix of new and used parts. Here's the list:

Ryzen 5 5500
Asrock B450m/AC R2.0 - cpu + mb bundle $130
32 GB ram (Silicon Power 3600mhz cas18) - $100
512GB ssd (T-force Vulcan) - $30
Radeon Vega 64 (ebay) - $80
Apevia Prestige 800w pso - $60
DIYPC F2-P case - $40

Total: $440

If the new steam machine is $400 or less, it'll be an ok value. If it's ~$600, it'll be a big miss.

This seems like a strange conclusion to arrive at? You're saying it will only be an "okay" value if it comes in at least 10% below what your mix of used, slower, and in some cases questionable hardware came to?

For what it's worth, I'd like to see sub-$500 these days on that level of specifications and performance... but that's more of an ideal desire rather than what the market has realistically been like this past half a decade. In 2023 and 2024, it was a good time for getting great value out of many PC hardware parts, but not so much now. The price of the Switch 2 and now the nonsense with RAM would not have me expecting sub-$400 on the Steam Machine. Not unless Valve sells the lowest storage option at a severe loss and hopes they gain enough new customers that buy enough games to make up for it. Which, who knows.

Vega 64 has 3 power modes which can be enabled in the driver software .if you use Power save mode , your card is basically underperforming . The card is 295W really

引用自 AbedsBrother：

I recently built a PC with a mix of new and used parts. Here's the list:

Ryzen 5 5500
Asrock B450m/AC R2.0 - cpu + mb bundle $130
32 GB ram (Silicon Power 3600mhz cas18) - $100
512GB ssd (T-force Vulcan) - $30
Radeon Vega 64 (ebay) - $80
Apevia Prestige 800w pso - $60
DIYPC F2-P case - $40

Total: $440

If the new steam machine is $400 or less, it'll be an ok value. If it's ~$600, it'll be a big miss.

I would say 400 to 600 range anyhting above 600 is an immediate turn off at that point may as well just save up money and get a Strix Halo handheld.

I don't think you understand what the steam machine is.

引用自 The_Abortionator：

I don't think you understand what the steam machine is.

its a console PC its meant to offer a plug and play no hassle solution the only thing that currently comes close to it are the 1400 dollar Strix Halo Handhelds and Mini PCs so the price of the Steam Machine better be sub 600 or else it will be really hard to justify spending that much money.