Cat 10 月 13 日 下午 1:45
should i disable MPO and HAGS
i was confused why my games crash i saved my DxDiag files and found out it says these issue:

GPU driver issue ?

“Block List: DISABLE_HWSCH” → this means the driver itself has flagged Hardware Scheduling (HAGS) as problematic on some configs.

Errors

Multiple LiveKernelEvent 141 entries → this is the exact Windows error code for “GPU driver timeout.”
最后由 Cat 编辑于; 10 月 13 日 下午 1:53
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If that particular dialog/error says to disable HAGS for that game, I'd try and disable it.

I'd leave MPO alone for now since I see nothing about that. Driver timeouts are usually a driver issue, graphics card (or other hardware) issue, or sometimes the game (or other software involved) issue.
Cat 10 月 13 日 下午 2:55 
If that particular dialog/error says to disable HAGS for that game, I'd try and disable it.

I'd leave MPO alone for now since I see nothing about that. Driver timeouts are usually a driver issue, graphics card (or other hardware) issue, or sometimes the game (or other software involved) issue.
i feel dump for buying AMD gpu seems like it more AMD gpu issue or i could be wrong
i never had these issue with old GTX GPU
Midnight Aurais 10 月 13 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Cat
If that particular dialog/error says to disable HAGS for that game, I'd try and disable it.

I'd leave MPO alone for now since I see nothing about that. Driver timeouts are usually a driver issue, graphics card (or other hardware) issue, or sometimes the game (or other software involved) issue.
i feel dump for buying AMD gpu seems like it more AMD gpu issue or i could be wrong
i never had these issue with old GTX GPU

yes and no its a windows issue more then anything also nvidia devices can suffer from the same issue

you just got unlucky that said mpo is a problem with amd more then nvidia again microsoft shenanigans at work so illusion might have said disable hags but it can be a chain cause and if mpo is changed it can resolve the problem

but one thing you do always ddu before updating the videocard right?

it wont hurt to change mpo worst case you change it back

for me when i first bought the 6950 xt i had to change mpo aswel because for some reason it was conflicting with the freesync feature and ended up bluescreening due to it this got fixed over driver version's though
Cat 10 月 13 日 下午 3:36 
引用自 Midnight Aurais
引用自 Cat
i feel dump for buying AMD gpu seems like it more AMD gpu issue or i could be wrong
i never had these issue with old GTX GPU

yes and no its a windows issue more then anything also nvidia devices can suffer from the same issue

you just got unlucky that said mpo is a problem with amd more then nvidia again microsoft shenanigans at work so illusion might have said disable hags but it can be a chain cause and if mpo is changed it can resolve the problem

but one thing you do always ddu before updating the videocard right?

it wont hurt to change mpo worst case you change it back

for me when i first bought the 6950 xt i had to change mpo aswel because for some reason it was conflicting with the freesync feature and ended up bluescreening due to it this got fixed over driver version's though
i lost over 70 fps could be the reason for my crashing is to many taps open in the background in window screen?
Bad 💀 Motha 10 月 13 日 下午 4:09 
See if GPU Hardware Scheduling is enabled in Windows. It's not a GPU issue. Some games have issues when it's on. Disable Game Mode a d Xbox Gamebar jnWinOS as well
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 10 月 13 日 下午 4:10
引用自 Cat
If that particular dialog/error says to disable HAGS for that game, I'd try and disable it.

I'd leave MPO alone for now since I see nothing about that. Driver timeouts are usually a driver issue, graphics card (or other hardware) issue, or sometimes the game (or other software involved) issue.
i feel dump for buying AMD gpu seems like it more AMD gpu issue or i could be wrong
i never had these issue with old GTX GPU
Why did you enable it in the first place? I presume the answer is to see if it improves things, and that's fine. But if it doesn't improve things, then it simply means it was better set how it defaulted. Why is that a problem?

This seems to default to off on AMD (and for a while, wasn't even an option), and it may be for a reason. From what I read, AMD was sort of doing their own hardware scheduling before this option became a thing, and that may be why it defaults off, but I'm not well informed on the finer details of that.

In any case, just because a setting is better on value B instead of value A on one brand, doesn't mean it's a problem if the inverse is true on the other brand.

As someone else said, this can depend on other variables, and it might vary game to game.

Unless you're actually having some sort of problem with it off, then I don't see the issue.

FWIW, I have it disabled (also using AMD) and I have no problems. I've thought of testing with it on, but I don't want to invest the time in that, and since the limited research I did turned up the rough answer of "it depends", I just left it as-is for now. Then again, I never had it enabled when I had nVidia either, though.
最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 10 月 13 日 下午 4:34
Cat 10 月 13 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 Cat
i feel dump for buying AMD gpu seems like it more AMD gpu issue or i could be wrong
i never had these issue with old GTX GPU
Why did you enable it in the first place? I presume the answer is to see if it improves things, and that's fine. But if it doesn't improve things, then it simply means it was better set how it defaulted. Why is that a problem?

This seems to default to off on AMD (and for a while, wasn't even an option), and it may be for a reason. From what I read, AMD was sort of doing their own hardware scheduling before this option became a thing, and that may be why it defaults off, but I'm not well informed on the finer details of that.

In any case, just because a setting is better on value B instead of value A on one brand, doesn't mean it's a problem if the inverse is true on the other brand.

As someone else said, this can depend on other variables, and it might vary game to game.

Unless you're actually having some sort of problem with it off, then I don't see the issue.

FWIW, I have it disabled (also using AMD) and I have no problems. I've thought of testing with it on, but I don't want to invest the time in that, and since the limited research I did turned up the rough answer of "it depends", I just left it as-is for now. Then again, I never had it enabled when I had nVidia either, though.
it was enable by it self
Perhaps it's enabled by default on some systems or drivers then. I just checked on my system and it's still off, but perhaps it doesn't change when updating even if it defaults on with fresh installations.

In any case, at least the game told you it has a problem with this so you can change it. The defaults don't always work best for everyone (this is impossible), which is why most things are options to begin with.
最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 10 月 13 日 下午 6:05
Bad 💀 Motha 10 月 13 日 下午 9:33 
Perhaps it's enabled by default on some systems or drivers then. I just checked on my system and it's still off, but perhaps it doesn't change when updating even if it defaults on with fresh installations.

In any case, at least the game told you it has a problem with this so you can change it. The defaults don't always work best for everyone (this is impossible), which is why most things are options to begin with.

It's enabled by default in Win11

Just go to Settings > Graphics in WinOS and disable Hardware Scheduling, Game Mode and Xbox Gamebar. Reboot after
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 10 月 13 日 下午 9:34
Jaunitta 🌸 10 月 14 日 上午 2:12 
Check the drivers for the GPU are not Microsoft, but as dx stated GPU driver issue, roll them back to previous,
search >device manager >display adapter>your GPU>properties>drivers>roll drivers back. Or uninstall. Install drivers from the manufacture such as Nvidia
最后由 Jaunitta 🌸 编辑于; 10 月 14 日 上午 2:12
Bad 💀 Motha 10 月 14 日 上午 3:14 
引用自 Jaunitta 🌸
Check the drivers for the GPU are not Microsoft, but as dx stated GPU driver issue, roll them back to previous,
search >device manager >display adapter>your GPU>properties>drivers>roll drivers back. Or uninstall. Install drivers from the manufacture such as Nvidia

You don't do GPUs from there. It should be listed within Apps. Such as your Installed Programs.

But it's easier first to disable Windows Updates ability to handle any drivers. Once this is done use and run the latest version of DDU app. Then select Safe Mode + Restart. Once in safe mode change the options so it deletes everything regarding Monitors and GPUs softwares. Then do the cleaning for each GPU brand. Once done restart and install latest driver from Intel / AMD / NVIDIA for Motherboard Chipset and Dedicated GPU. When done reboot once more.
Cat 10 月 14 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
引用自 Jaunitta 🌸
Check the drivers for the GPU are not Microsoft, but as dx stated GPU driver issue, roll them back to previous,
search >device manager >display adapter>your GPU>properties>drivers>roll drivers back. Or uninstall. Install drivers from the manufacture such as Nvidia

You don't do GPUs from there. It should be listed within Apps. Such as your Installed Programs.

But it's easier first to disable Windows Updates ability to handle any drivers. Once this is done use and run the latest version of DDU app. Then select Safe Mode + Restart. Once in safe mode change the options so it deletes everything regarding Monitors and GPUs softwares. Then do the cleaning for each GPU brand. Once done restart and install latest driver from Intel / AMD / NVIDIA for Motherboard Chipset and Dedicated GPU. When done reboot once more.
question is Xbox or PS5 better than pc ?

it's really getting confusing and a lot of issues
does Xbox or Ps5 need same drivers and have ton of settings?
引用自 Cat
question is Xbox or PS5 better than pc ?

it's really getting confusing and a lot of issues
does Xbox or Ps5 need same drivers and have ton of settings?
This is a subjective question. Better in what ways?

Consoles have their advantages.

PCs also have theirs.

You'll get a biased answer to this question on Steam, just as you'd get a biased answer if you asked that same question in a console community.

Consoles don't need the drivers fussed with. The games sometimes do have different settings, but it's usually one or two presets (performance and image quality) as opposed to the ability to tune them further.

In performance, consoles are behind PCs, naturally, since PC hardware gets released more frequently. For the cost, consoles will be better though (meaning a better PC will cost disproportionately more). The PlayStation 5/Xbox Series X are roughly comparable to a PC with a Ryzen 7 3700X (clocked a bit lower, and missing some things that don't impact game performance much), 16 GB of shared RAM/VRAM (majority of which gets used as VRAM), and an RX 6700/RTX 3060 Ti or so. The PlayStation 5 Pro is a bit higher bit still quite below a performant PC. So hardware favors the PC but performance per dollar favors consoles.

The PC gaming library is a huge strength to it. No way to mince that one.

So basically, consoles are a better value (on hardware alone) and typically simpler, as well as a more guaranteed experience. PCs have better performance (if you have a higher end PC) and a much larger game library. They allow you tune settings more, use mods, and do more than just play games (consoles can do a little more than game too, but they don't have access to the vast x86 software library that the PC does).
Cat 10 月 14 日 上午 8:07 
引用自 Cat
question is Xbox or PS5 better than pc ?

it's really getting confusing and a lot of issues
does Xbox or Ps5 need same drivers and have ton of settings?
This is a subjective question. Better in what ways?

Consoles have their advantages.

PCs also have theirs.

You'll get a biased answer to this question on Steam, just as you'd get a biased answer if you asked that same question in a console community.

Consoles don't need the drivers fussed with. The games sometimes do have different settings, but it's usually one or two presets (performance and image quality) as opposed to the ability to tune them further.

In performance, consoles are behind PCs, naturally, since PC hardware gets released more frequently. For the cost, consoles will be better though (meaning a better PC will cost disproportionately more). The PlayStation 5/Xbox Series X are roughly comparable to a PC with a Ryzen 7 3700X (clocked a bit lower, and missing some things that don't impact game performance much), 16 GB of shared RAM/VRAM (majority of which gets used as VRAM), and an RX 6700/RTX 3060 Ti or so. The PlayStation 5 Pro is a bit higher bit still quite below a performant PC. So hardware favors the PC but performance per dollar favors consoles.

The PC gaming library is a huge strength to it. No way to mince that one.

So basically, consoles are a better value (on hardware alone) and typically simpler, as well as a more guaranteed experience. PCs have better performance (if you have a higher end PC) and a much larger game library. They allow you tune settings more, use mods, and do more than just play games (consoles can do a little more than game too, but they don't have access to the vast x86 software library that the PC does).


am just tried of this pc so many issue
i want to sell it that's why am asking
iv been asking to many people last week and in steam forums nothing really helped !

what i mean are about consoles is they don't have any drivers to install and won't have gpu issue!?
I haven't had a console in over two decades so I can't tell you what issues they do and don't have, but they will generally require less maintenance than PCs do.
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