Elllis 10 月 9 日 下午 4:22
How many of you actually use the game's/driver's sync option (Vsync, Gsync, Freesync)?
or do you turn it off completely and ignore the screen tearing that may show up during gameplay?
最后由 Elllis 编辑于; 10 月 9 日 下午 4:22
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Bing Chilling 10 月 9 日 下午 8:31 
i use Gsync. imo it's impossible to go back to playing without it.
the jitter of playing without gsync is annoying af

not even talking about stutter, there's a weird jitter to panning the screen without using it. Also you're suppose to technically also use in game Vsync with Gsync to completely remove any tearing, as gsync doesn't actually remove any tearing. though in 90% of games i don't notice tearing so i leave vsync off.
最后由 Bing Chilling 编辑于; 10 月 9 日 下午 8:36
Screen tearing is very undesirable to me. Therefore, I almost always sync frames to refresh. Any added input delay never bothers me more than the aforementioned things. I also prefer as consistent an experiences as possible, which syncing to a frame rate target you can almost always maintain gets you.
C1REX 10 月 9 日 下午 10:45 
I personally always use FreeSync and never go above 144/120fps.
Zefar 10 月 9 日 下午 11:22 
My Monitor has FreeSync so I use that. Not a single issue with it.

Screen tearing is just something I don't want to see. So distracting.
wing0zero 10 月 9 日 下午 11:41 
I leave it off due to the issue OLED has with HDR and VRR but I don't get screen tearing the way I set games up.

I'll give a quick example, here is CP2077 with a uncapped frame rate and as you can see FPS/frame time is up and down and you will get screen tearing going on here and there, you will see the moving frame time is all over,
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3572070658

So I aim to lock FPS between P5 and P1 values and you see a smoother moving frame time which equals a smooth game with no tearing as I can draw all the frames, might get the odd tear but nothing noticeable or distracting.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3572071382

Does help to have a high end PC though to do it the way I do as i have tons of overhead to play with to still get high FPS.

So yeah I aim for a stable frame time above all else.
最后由 wing0zero 编辑于; 10 月 9 日 下午 11:42
SlowClick 10 月 10 日 上午 12:03 
I use vsync.
Andrius227 10 月 10 日 上午 12:47 
I just use vsync. I have gsync but it causes a slight flicker. At first i thought my monitor was defective but then i tried two other monitors and countless dp cables and it was exactly the same so i concluded that it’s normal behaviour and stopped using gsync.
Marshal 10 月 10 日 上午 1:01 
I use freesync premium. G sync chips aren’t worth the premium. I had owned one before and noticed no difference on my freesync panel.
Marshal 10 月 10 日 上午 1:02 
引用自 Andrius227
I just use vsync. I have gsync but it causes a slight flicker. At first i thought my monitor was defective but then i tried two other monitors and countless dp cables and it was exactly the same so i concluded that it’s normal behaviour and stopped using gsync.
It’s not really normal behaviour. It’s monitor dependent. My DELL has no such issues.
Manually balancing the frame rate and refresh rate isn't too much of a burden.
wing0zero 10 月 10 日 上午 2:00 
引用自 Marshal
引用自 Andrius227
I just use vsync. I have gsync but it causes a slight flicker. At first i thought my monitor was defective but then i tried two other monitors and countless DP cables and it was exactly the same so i concluded that it’s normal behaviour and stopped using gsync.
It’s not really normal behaviour. It’s monitor dependent. My DELL has no such issues.
I'll just grab some quotes from Google to save time but explain the problem a bit.

"Rtings.com notes that VRR flicker is an issue with variable refresh rate technology, particularly affecting OLED displays. This occurs when frame rates fluctuate, causing the monitor's refresh rate to change and disrupting the optimal gamma response, leading to visible flickering, especially in dark scenes."


"What is VRR flicker?

VRR flicker is a visual artefact that happens when a variable refresh rate (VRR) is enabled, especially on OLED and some VA panels.

It occurs because the monitor's refresh rate is constantly changing to match the fluctuating frame rate of the game or application.
This rapid change in refresh rate can cause inconsistencies in the panel's gamma response, which are most noticeable as flickering in dark or near-black areas of the screen.
Unlike back light flicker, which is related to brightness control, VRR flicker is more erratic and tied to the varying frame rate"

Below is why I don't use it as it stands out too much with HDR on.

"OLED panels are optimised for a fixed refresh rate. When the rate is variable, it causes a deviation from the optimal gamma response, leading to the misfiring of sub pixels and visible flicker. "

So it depends on the panel you use to how much it can stand out, and other things like the frame timing, technically it can happen on any panel type but stands out more on VA and OLED, dude probably had a VA monitor.

Also some just don't see it and I envy them stands out to me, one of my friends was no doesn't do it on my OLED with VRR and HDR (LG C2 TV), I said it does you just don't notice, nah he says, next time I was at his I pointed it out, he was well dam... wish you didn't show me.
Marshal 10 月 10 日 上午 2:20 
Mine is an IPS panel so that’s probably why I’m not seeing anything.

I’ve been considering OLED but maybe I’ll hold off if freesync is a problem there.
C1REX 10 月 10 日 上午 3:04 
引用自 Marshal
Mine is an IPS panel so that’s probably why I’m not seeing anything.

I’ve been considering OLED but maybe I’ll hold off if freesync is a problem there.
Flicker can often be avoided with correct settings. I can cause flicker on my fast VA panel but it's easily avoidable with more stable and higher Hz and fps. At least for me.
wing0zero 10 月 10 日 上午 3:10 
引用自 C1REX
引用自 Marshal
Mine is an IPS panel so that’s probably why I’m not seeing anything.

I’ve been considering OLED but maybe I’ll hold off if freesync is a problem there.
Flicker can often be avoided with correct settings. I can cause flicker on my fast VA panel but it's easily avoidable with more stable and higher Hz and fps. At least for me.

Yeah that's it, balance the frame times out best you can and that helps.
Vsync + FreeSync
tbh the best, would be better if G-Sync.
just cannot return from it, remember how i played on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ without vsync, tearing all along the way
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