You should be glad that Valve makes the disclosure mandatory at all.

I’m pretty sure tags are user generated. I think if enough people agreed on a tag for AI: “Uses generative AI,” “Uses LLMs,” or even just “Uses AI,” or “AI,” etc. we as users could MAKE it a tag on games that used it.

引用自 Ettanin：

You should be glad that Valve makes the disclosure mandatory at all.

I'm extremely happy it is! But I also just don't want to see games produced with it.

引用自 KrakenGreywolf：

I’m pretty sure tags are user generated. I think if enough people agreed on a tag for AI: “Uses generative AI,” “Uses LLMs,” or even just “Uses AI,” or “AI,” etc. we as users could MAKE it a tag on games that used it.

I think "AI disclosure" would be enough as there are a lot of different cases on how involved AI was in production, but just a tag for the disclosure would include all games with it and not oversell or exaggerate what it was used for.

Tags at the top of the store page right hand side are user generated.

Tags further down the store page right hand side are developer, publisher generated.

If you want an a.i disclosure tag you need to add it and hope others do to.

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引用自 KrakenGreywolf：

I’m pretty sure tags are user generated. I think if enough people agreed on a tag for AI: “Uses generative AI,” “Uses LLMs,” or even just “Uses AI,” or “AI,” etc. we as users could MAKE it a tag on games that used it.

I think "AI disclosure" would be enough as there are a lot of different cases on how involved AI was in production, but just a tag for the disclosure would include all games with it and not oversell or exaggerate what it was used for.

That’s a good idea. What about the games that very obviously use AI and don’t disclose it?

that would be dope, would allow to filter out all the slop (and i cant believe im saying this but I think what Arc Raiders did was ultimately a good thing? cause it had the consent of the original voice actors and its for privacy reasons, its a positive thing for the players, not cutting costs, atleast from what I heard, so these instances should only have a disclosure at the bottom, but any generated assets or voices like in Liar Bar yeah nah)

I understand that this would not cover games that do not opt in to the disclosure falsely. That is a pickle for steam to remedy. But if we can get the tag created, they will see what it's userbase wants and maybe give us a filter to hide the games/make the tag a steam generated one that is automatically applied when a game has the disclosure.

Yes this would hide arc raiders and other games that use minimal AI, yes this could normalize AI content for casuals who see this on more games that don't use it in terrible ways. But it also means I'll never see another new Bethesda game, and I'm quite happy with that.

引用自 󠀡：

I understand that this would not cover games that do not opt in to the disclosure falsely. That is a pickle for steam to remedy. But if we can get the tag created, they will see what it's userbase wants and maybe give us a filter to hide the games/make the tag a steam generated one that is automatically applied when a game has the disclosure.

Yes this would hide arc raiders and other games that use minimal AI, yes this could normalize AI content for casuals who see this on more games that don't use it in terrible ways. But it also means I'll never see another new Bethesda game, and I'm quite happy with that.

Bethesda is using AI now?? (i would suspect their entire management is AI with the whole Fallout 4 update drama, and here I was wanting to finally play the game to completion,,)

This board has repeatedly asserted Valve will not allow tags that only exist to reduce sales which AI disclosure surely would be.

The downside is that, since tags are applied by users, trolls could easily tag games with no IA as IA games, making the tag overall useless.

Whoops, I'm wrong @hyper, I got Howard and Sweeney mixed up. Howard has a pretty "ok" view of AI where he says it would be a nice tool for automation but not for generating anything.

引用自 󠀡：

Whoops, I'm wrong @hyper, I got Howard and Sweeney mixed up. Howard has a pretty "ok" view of AI where he says it would be a nice tool for automation but not for generating anything.

I see. yeah Sweeney is an absolute clown stuttering ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that is anti Linux and pro AI and cares only about money

引用自 Ettanin：

You should be glad that Valve makes the disclosure mandatory at all.

At what point is this an actual thought people have. At what point does "Things are nice, I should be thankful of how they are and never hope or ask for better" pop into someones head and they're like "yeah, I shouldn't want things to be better."

In this case, I like it, but at the same time I don't.
The reality.

Tags suck. They're incredibly useless a good 70% of the time. Everyone wants to make their friends laugh, so you end up with a ton of dumb "funny" tags on games because people want a laugh, and then you end up with bad tags out the ass as we have it now. I don't know how many times I've seen blatently ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tags, like "Co-Op" on a singleplayer game, not because it's coming (like Riftbreaker, which took years for their coop to be added), but because the game isn't made for multiplayer at all.

Right now they have to post on the page per steams rules. which is nice, but also a bit unclear on some games. Having a tag that can only be added by the devs checking the AI box on their steam page might work though.
I'd like better clarification on what they used it for too. Right now they can write whatever they want and I'm seeing some games kinda gloss over it so you don't know just how much was made with AI.