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Decouple Hubs from Forums or Take Forum Bans More Seriously
Hello, recently banned by the very sensitive moderation team at Dead by Daylight for a sentence.

I have a suggestion to decouple the hub from the forums so players being wrongfully banned by power hungry moderators can still interact/upload screenshots, videos, artwork, etc. If a dev wants to ban a player from the Hub, it should be sent in to Steam as a request the same way a player would report somebody.

If this isn't possible, then steam needs to take moderation more seriously as simply not being liked by one forum moderator can restrict you completely from the game's hub. If its clear a mod of a forum is abusing their power, the moderator should have their abilities revoked for abusing their power if the ban was unjust.
最后由 Neon Sears TTVerrrr 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 4:39
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AmsterdamHeavy 12 月 8 日 下午 4:41 
The hubs are theirs every bit as much as the forums.

Most viciously run forum on the platform, imo.
nullable 12 月 8 日 下午 4:48 
引用自 Neon Sears TTVerrrrr
Hello, recently banned by the very sensitive moderation team at Dead by Daylight for a sentence.

Depending on the sentence, might be worth a ban.

If the DBD devs are doing such a bad job it'll kill the community and the game. Those are the consequences.

Valve isn't going to intervene or tell devs they can't manage their community, or otherwise cripple moderation by product owners.

You're very confused about the Valve + Dev relationship.
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 4:49
Mad Scientist 12 月 8 日 下午 4:49 
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
The hubs are theirs every bit as much as the forums.

Most viciously run forum on the platform, imo.
They're decently strict about non game related stuff or arguments. Halo and ark are significantly more vicious.
引用自 nullable
引用自 Neon Sears TTVerrrrr
Hello, recently banned by the very sensitive moderation team at Dead by Daylight for a sentence.

Depending on the sentence, might be worth a ban.

If the DBD devs are doing such a bad job it'll kill the community and the game. Those are the consequences.

Valve isn't going to intervene or tell devs they can't manage their community, or otherwise cripple moderation by product owners.

You're very confused about the Valve + Dev relationship.

The issue is that I can't post anything at all from the game now unless I do some wacky ♥♥♥♥ lol. This affects my entire profile if I ever wanted to do something specific without malicious intent. I don't care about not being able to speak on the forums, but if I wanted to post a screenshot for people to see on MY profile, then I should be allowed to even if it doesn't get posted on the "community hub" Simply as that.
引用自 Mad Scientist
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
The hubs are theirs every bit as much as the forums.

Most viciously run forum on the platform, imo.
They're decently strict about non game related stuff or arguments. Halo and ark are significantly more vicious.
The only time I see Ark game hub moberation ban is in June tbh when the phobes come out to complain about Pride, tbh.
Satoru 12 月 8 日 下午 5:41 
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Stop breaking the rules and your 'problem' goes away
KrakenGreywolf 12 月 8 日 下午 5:42 
Agreed. Dead by Daylight is the only game I can truly say I hate (that has no outside factors involved). It’s all down to the ridiculously power-tripping mods, the incompetent and greedy devs, and the (largely) toxic AH community.

Yes, Valve support, I’ll be forever pissed you didn’t give me a refund for that toxic garbage heap of a “game” when I’d owned it for less than a week (and started playing during a free weekend).

Seriously, though-Steam does need to do something about subforum moderation if mods’ incredibly thin skin is stopping you (and others) from posting screenshots from a game that was paid for.

引用自 Satoru
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Stop breaking the rules and your 'problem' goes away

Nice try, but those rules don’t apply to subforums. Mods in subforums aren’t hired by Valve, have their own set of rules, and if they feel like being malicious (or are just in a bad mood) they will bend those rules to ban you.

Case in point: I’ve been active on internet forums for most of my life (millennial). The only forum bans I’ve ever received? A weeklong ban (for a ridiculous reason when I’d owned the game for less than a week) and a monthlong ban from the Dead by Daylight subforum here on Steam. No warnings prior-just bans. I’ve never received so much as a warning on any other forum in my entire life.
最后由 KrakenGreywolf 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 5:47
引用自 Satoru
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Stop breaking the rules and your 'problem' goes away

I didn't break any rules. DBD forums are notorious for being unjust and terribly moderated.

Why is there always someone like this who thinks every user is clearly the criminal when that isn't the case like.. majority of the time?
KrakenGreywolf 12 月 8 日 下午 5:51 
引用自 Satoru
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Stop breaking the rules and your 'problem' goes away

I didn't break any rules. DBD forums are notorious for being unjust and terribly moderated.

Why is there always someone like this who thinks every user is clearly the criminal when that isn't the case like.. majority of the time?

I swear, someone needs to start a topic “Post here if the only forum ban you’ve ever received was from the Dead by Daylight/another BHVR project’s forum.” I bet the number would be higher than most would think. Those mods/devs are truly ridiculous, IMO.

引用自 nullable
引用自 Neon Sears TTVerrrrr
Hello, recently banned by the very sensitive moderation team at Dead by Daylight for a sentence.

Depending on the sentence, might be worth a ban.

If the DBD devs are doing such a bad job it'll kill the community and the game. Those are the consequences.

I for one am doing my part (even though I never got permabanned from the subforums). I stopped playing shortly before the FNAF chapter because I knew the upcoming changes were only going to further hurt solo-queue (and I was right-I never truly SWF’d), I didn’t like the increasing “Fortnitification” of the game, I hated Ghoul and didn’t want anything to do with the FNAF license being in the game AND my favorite killer was gutted then neglected for years. So I uninstalled, removed the game from my Steam library and haven’t touched it since. I wish more solo players who complain about having a miserable time while still booting up the game frequently would do the same.

I won’t be back unless a more competent (and far more open to criticism) company buys them out and gives the game the care it actually needs (even if it means putting the game in a bare-bones maintenance mode for several months-a year while listening to feedback from their entire consumer base-not just the most viewed content creators-and rebuilding the spaghetti code from scratch so something doesn’t break every patch), fixing all the glaring bugs and improving the anti-cheat while balancing the game around the quiet majority’s wants instead of the vocal minority’s wants.
最后由 KrakenGreywolf 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 6:12
引用自 KrakenGreywolf

I didn't break any rules. DBD forums are notorious for being unjust and terribly moderated.

Why is there always someone like this who thinks every user is clearly the criminal when that isn't the case like.. majority of the time?

I swear, someone needs to start a topic “Post here if the only forum ban you’ve ever received was from the Dead by Daylight/another BHVR project’s forum.” I bet the number would be higher than most would think. Those mods/devs are truly ridiculous, IMO.

They're quite literally the only place I've ever been banned from. No other forum is so quick to ban players over simple, non-offensive banter. No non-steam moderator should have the ability to permaban IMO.

Just wish Steam would decouple the hub at the very least and implement a better system.
Dead by Daylight is the only game hub I have a permanent ban in. In general, I very rarely get banned because I tend to follow the rules. I have a few bans here and there on these generic boards and basically no bans on any other hub.

Want to know how I got a perma? This is the best part. You see, someone created a thread to ask if they were playing with a cheater because the cheater was playing with a cosmetic that didn't seem to be in the game yet. I responded by saying that after looking it up, they were correct that the cosmetic was in the game files but not released yet, and I posted a twitter link showing that.

Guess what the moderators did? Deleted the thread, and then perma-banned me for "posting leaked content."
Ben Lubar 12 月 8 日 下午 6:11 
I don't get it. If you don't like the moderators, why do you want back into the forum? They're just going to ban you again if you keep acting the same way, and game developers are going to start hating Valve if they overturn bans for no reason (which is why they don't do that).
最后由 Ben Lubar 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 6:11
datCookie 12 月 8 日 下午 6:11 

Just wish Steam would decouple the hub at the very least and implement a better system.

They're not going to do this, least of all because of the negative experiences of a handful of people over a handful of game hubs.
引用自 Ben Lubar
I don't get it. If you don't like the moderators, why do you want back into the forum? They're just going to ban you again if you keep acting the same way, and game developers are going to start hating Valve if they overturn bans for no reason (which is why they don't do that).

Please re-read the original post. I straight up do not care about being banned from the forums at all, make no mistake on this.

But receiving a ban on the forum carries over to the game's entire community hub which affects my ability to post screenshots if I so choose to, unless I do a workaround which I should not have to do...

引用自 datCookie

Just wish Steam would decouple the hub at the very least and implement a better system.

They're not going to do this, least of all because of the negative experiences of a handful of people over a handful of game hubs.

Yeah, I've no doubt nothing will happen (it never does), but it doesn't hurt to at least try.
最后由 Neon Sears TTVerrrr 编辑于; 12 月 8 日 下午 6:14
Ben Lubar 12 月 8 日 下午 6:15 
引用自 Ben Lubar
I don't get it. If you don't like the moderators, why do you want back into the forum? They're just going to ban you again if you keep acting the same way, and game developers are going to start hating Valve if they overturn bans for no reason (which is why they don't do that).

Please re-read the original post. I straight up do not care about being banned from the forums at all, make no mistake on this.

But receiving a ban on the forum carries over to the game's entire community hub which affects my ability to post screenshots if I so choose to, unless I do a workaround which I should not have to do...

It's the same area of the same website. Valve isn't going to force moderators to play whack-a-mole. If someone gets banned from posting on the discussions tab of the hub, why shouldn't they also be banned from the other tabs (except for making reviews, because hub moderators can't touch that)
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