¢ Steam Market update broke Decimal Point for certain currencies. Suggested Fix:

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SilentBugler 12 月 8 日下午 3:53

¢ Steam Market update broke Decimal Point for certain currencies. Suggested Fix:

Decimal point in ₴Hryvnia, aka kopika.

Per Steam Support's suggestion, I'm making a topic here.

引用自 "Steam Support"：
The Community Market has been updated to use a new minimum amount for sale price, publisher fee and Steam fee that is consistent worldwide. This change is intended to make access to extremely low-cost items consistent for users in all currencies.

If you wish to share an opinion on this change, please visit the Suggestions/Ideas section of the Steam Discussion forums.

Yeah, that's fair enough.

But in the process You've removed the kopiyka (cent equivalent for UAH, aka Decimal Points Values) access/display for orders in UAH while still using it under the hood in unpredictable ways.

Here's one very simple example:
https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/18425574108162372551/1816D2B458272218EB78904BDD87D1EA59B4A283/

Both of those items were listed for the minimum allowed: "3UAH", as you can see the listing date is after the change. The sell order clearly stated that I should have recieved "1UAH" in both cases.
And this strange behaviour doesn't only affect minimum orders, the amonts I get for listings are all over the place and don't reflect what is seen in the Sell Order interface -- all because we're not allowed to see the Decimal Points Values in orders outside of transaction log (when it's already too late).

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15851568979925185606/0463DD8E625589DDAF86CD46E0A09FC6201ACD2C/
Look at these, all of them used to have decimal point in hryvnia! With the decimal pojnt removed you get nonsense like unfullfileed orders at the same price point (because in reality the decimal is different).

I imagine there may be more currencies broken like this. Valve please just return the Decimal Point to its normal function, it has nothing to do with setting the proper Minimum Price.

EDIT1:

Official Steamworks documentation on the proper use of Hryvnia UAH:

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing/currencies

引用自 Steamworks：
Ukrainian Hryvnia, reported in kopiykas. Must be charged in increments of 100 kopiykas (e.g. 1000, not 1050).

最后由 SilentBugler 编辑于; 12 月 9 日上午 9:48

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Arcti 12 月 10 日上午 12:00

引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：
引用自 Arcti：
I have created reddit post about this issue https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1pi492a/incorrect_minimal_price_listing_steam_market/

I read your post, which was very detailed—thank you. I hope they will start doing something about it.

It's 6th day since issue came up and yet no fix, nobody talks about it, it may take weeks if support did not label our tickets as something emergency

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БомбоKLAY McAllister 12 月 10 日上午 12:09

引用自 Arcti：
引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：

I read your post, which was very detailed—thank you. I hope they will start doing something about it.
It's 6th day since issue came up and yet no fix, nobody talks about it, it may take weeks if support did not label our tickets as something emergency

This will only demonstrate the attitude of Steam and Valve towards Ukraine and Ukrainians, unfortunately.

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Arcti 12 月 10 日上午 12:32

引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：
引用自 Arcti：
It's 6th day since issue came up and yet no fix, nobody talks about it, it may take weeks if support did not label our tickets as something emergency

This will only demonstrate the attitude of Steam and Valve towards Ukraine and Ukrainians, unfortunately. :thekid:

no, this demonstrates nothing, there is no biasing towards Ukrainians. This is just Valve, never deliver fixes intime

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БомбоKLAY McAllister 12 月 10 日上午 12:35

引用自 Arcti：
引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：

This will only demonstrate the attitude of Steam and Valve towards Ukraine and Ukrainians, unfortunately.
no, this demonstrates nothing, there is no biasing towards Ukrainians. This is just Valve, never deliver fixes intime

Maybe. We think differently.
I'm not blaming anyone, just expressing my opinion.

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Arcti 12 月 10 日上午 2:11

引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：
引用自 Arcti：
no, this demonstrates nothing, there is no biasing towards Ukrainians. This is just Valve, never deliver fixes intime
Maybe. We think differently.
I'm not blaming anyone, just expressing my opinion.

Anyway, more people should be interested in this critical issue. But as I see majority of users emphasize ,in most messages, only removing subunits to currency which does not show full picture of problem, this decreases chance any Valve's representative would estimate this as something important. The highest damage fell on purchasing/selling different type of items and it touches even 1$ price

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SilentBugler 12 月 10 日上午 9:21

引用自 Ben Lubar：
引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：

No, I mean that now i have to buy items on third-party platforms, rather than directly from Steam as before.

And they're doing credit card transactions for $0.03?

Bots and third party grey markets can come with a credit system of their own. The current situation just incentivises use of Levelling Services / Card Trade Bots rather than market trade for countries with weak currencies... which admittedly seems fine by Valve, as it takes some load off of Market's servers.

Still, the Hryvvnia's removal of a decimal point and the problems that came with it seem to be unique right now as I'm not seeing many more complaint threads for other currencies.

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Dora 12 月 11 日上午 1:43

引用自 SilentBugler：
引用自 Ben Lubar：

And they're doing credit card transactions for $0.03?
Bots and third party grey markets can come with a credit system of their own. The current situation just incentivises use of Levelling Services / Card Trade Bots rather than market trade for countries with weak currencies... which admittedly seems fine by Valve, as it takes some load off of Market's servers.

Still, the Hryvvnia's removal of a decimal point and the problems that came with it seem to be unique right now as I'm not seeing many more complaint threads for other currencies.

Unique? Lowest bidding is now 3 NTD = 0.096 USD which is higher than 3 UAH. This is daylight robbery so for me it's third party websites for trading from now on. L update

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БомбоKLAY McAllister 12 月 11 日上午 2:18

引用自 Dora：
引用自 SilentBugler：
Bots and third party grey markets can come with a credit system of their own. The current situation just incentivises use of Levelling Services / Card Trade Bots rather than market trade for countries with weak currencies... which admittedly seems fine by Valve, as it takes some load off of Market's servers.

Still, the Hryvvnia's removal of a decimal point and the problems that came with it seem to be unique right now as I'm not seeing many more complaint threads for other currencies.

Unique? Lowest bidding is now 3 NTD = 0.096 USD which is higher than 3 UAH. This is daylight robbery so for me it's third party websites for trading from now on. L update

I completely agree.
This is outright robbery.
The update that broke Steam Community Market

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Arcti 12 月 11 日上午 3:12

By the way, all items in UAH cost 2-3 cents more than in USD, I have compared prices on market and this is cringe, you not only pay more for low-cost items, you pay more for all items in hryvnia

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MaDDeviL 12 月 11 日上午 3:50

引用自 Arcti：
By the way, all items in UAH cost 2-3 cents more than in USD, I have compared prices on market and this is cringe, you not only pay more for low-cost items, you pay more for all items in hryvnia

There's also a weird-ass rounding. Yesterday I tried to sell an item for 17 UAH, and it doesn't let me do that. It changes to 16 UAH on the price validation. Seems like some amounts can't be counted properly because of the decimals removal and you can't even use the desired number. I get it when it wasn't allowing some numbers like 17.77 UAH and instead it gave you 17.75 or smth, but changing the whole point while you are already restrained by new rules is bs.

最后由 MaDDeviL 编辑于; 12 月 11 日上午 3:50

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SilentBugler 12 月 11 日下午 7:43

引用自 Dora：
引用自 SilentBugler：
Bots and third party grey markets can come with a credit system of their own. The current situation just incentivises use of Levelling Services / Card Trade Bots rather than market trade for countries with weak currencies... which admittedly seems fine by Valve, as it takes some load off of Market's servers.

Still, the Hryvvnia's removal of a decimal point and the problems that came with it seem to be unique right now as I'm not seeing many more complaint threads for other currencies.

Unique? Lowest bidding is now 3 NTD = 0.096 USD which is higher than 3 UAH. This is daylight robbery so for me it's third party websites for trading from now on. L update

Sorry. I've only looked at the English language forums, my bad. But I've a feeling people in Taiwan have a better chance being heard at least...If this wasn't an intentional change Valve just doesn't want to discuss.

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Arcti 12 月 11 日下午 9:38

引用自 MaDDeviL：
引用自 Arcti：
By the way, all items in UAH cost 2-3 cents more than in USD, I have compared prices on market and this is cringe, you not only pay more for low-cost items, you pay more for all items in hryvnia

There's also a weird-ass rounding. Yesterday I tried to sell an item for 17 UAH, and it doesn't let me do that. It changes to 16 UAH on the price validation. Seems like some amounts can't be counted properly because of the decimals removal and you can't even use the desired number. I get it when it wasn't allowing some numbers like 17.77 UAH and instead it gave you 17.75 or smth, but changing the whole point while you are already restrained by new rules is bs.

It looks as Valve won't fix anything and UAH will be unusable at all. It's been week and nothing is back

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SilentBugler 12 月 12 日上午 6:56

引用自 Arcti：
引用自 MaDDeviL：

There's also a weird-ass rounding. Yesterday I tried to sell an item for 17 UAH, and it doesn't let me do that. It changes to 16 UAH on the price validation. Seems like some amounts can't be counted properly because of the decimals removal and you can't even use the desired number. I get it when it wasn't allowing some numbers like 17.77 UAH and instead it gave you 17.75 or smth, but changing the whole point while you are already restrained by new rules is bs.
It looks as Valve won't fix anything and UAH will be unusable at all. It's been week and nothing is back

I don't have high hopes on this either, but I'm going to keep checking back on the forum to see if more people are complaining (another person posted a thread today, for example). With the current blackouts going on in Ukraine I don't expect even everyone who has time for Steam noticed what happened with the market,
We'll see how it goes, particularly now that we know that Ukraine isn't the only one affected.

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Arcti 12 月 12 日上午 7:58

引用自 SilentBugler：
引用自 Arcti：
It looks as Valve won't fix anything and UAH will be unusable at all. It's been week and nothing is back

I don't have high hopes on this either, but I'm going to keep checking back on the forum to see if more people are complaining (another person posted a thread today, for example). With the current blackouts going on in Ukraine I don't expect even everyone who has time for Steam noticed what happened with the market,
We'll see how it goes, particularly now that we know that Ukraine isn't the only one affected.

4-5 days ago I had errors attempting to buy usp charm and Mac10 Pisquick, and failed to sell 3 UAH skin, now these fixed. So Valve is aware of what they implemented, just fixed ability to sell/buy. They just want people to use 3rd party markets instead their own market..

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Thermal Lance 12 月 12 日上午 8:01

引用自 БомбоKLAY McAllister：
引用自 Ben Lubar：

There are other platforms that let you buy and sell Steam inventory items using your Steam Wallet funds? That doesn't seem correct.

No, I mean that now i have to buy items on third-party platforms, rather than directly from Steam as before.

Please let us know when your account get hijacked or you get scammed. Could use a good laugh.

最后由 Thermal Lance 编辑于; 12 月 12 日上午 8:02

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