Jagulars 12 月 7 日 上午 5:15
Early Access games should be called As Is Games
The word "Early" suggests that there is also "later", which is often not true, and there are no repercussions for abandoning your game in a half-finished state after liberating the consumers from their currency. Other than losing reputation, that many developers never had, and who can just restart with a new name.

Unfortunately, this encourages trashy developer behavior.

EDIT: "As Is Game" is a better title than Paid Demo.
最后由 Jagulars 编辑于; 2 小时以前
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Aluvard 12 月 7 日 上午 5:18 
More often than not, it's in fact true.
Also every Early Access Game has this text on their store page:
Games in Early Access are not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.
AmsterdamHeavy 12 月 7 日 上午 5:20 
I cant even be bothered to type an original post on this topic, so this is all you get.

引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
It only hurts the trust of people who do not understand what Early Access is or what they are selling under that header.

Roadmaps are 100% meaningless when it comes to EAGs. Allow me to tell you WHY.

Because you arent buying a full game. You arent buying the roadmap or anything in it.Not to mention there are plenty of AAA full release games that do not fulfill development promises.

You are buying the game as it exists at the time of purchase. Period. End of. There are no additional entitlements that go with that purchase, such as "a complete game".

If you want a complete game then you wait until the game is out of Early Access.
最后由 AmsterdamHeavy 编辑于; 12 月 7 日 上午 5:21
Jagulars 12 月 7 日 上午 5:22 
Most people know that it is not a complete game. However, the name suggest that one day it will be, which is not always true. I don't believe the answer is tolerating misleading marketing.

Many developers are given an unearned benefit of trust in that title, which is abused by some developers.

For the record, I have never purchased an EA game so I'm not speaking for myself, other than wanting more accountable and respectful game development ecosystem.
最后由 Jagulars 编辑于; 12 月 7 日 上午 5:26
Nx Machina 12 月 7 日 上午 5:24 
What is an Early Access game?

It does not get any CLEARER than:

"Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it DEVELOPS".

"This Early Access game is NOT COMPLETE and MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE FURTHER. If YOU are not excited to play this game in its CURRENT STATE, then YOU should WAIT to see IF the game progresses further in DEVELOPMENT".

So the question remains is waiting a problem?
Jagulars 12 月 7 日 上午 5:27 
引用自 Nx Machina
What is an Early Access game?

It does not get any CLEARER than:

"Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it DEVELOPS".

"This Early Access game is NOT COMPLETE and MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE FURTHER. If YOU are not excited to play this game in its CURRENT STATE, then YOU should WAIT to see IF the game progresses further in DEVELOPMENT".

So the question remains is waiting a problem?
The fact that it needs to be explicitly specified is a giveaway that the name is not sufficient, don't you think?
最后由 Jagulars 编辑于; 12 月 7 日 上午 5:31
Nx Machina 12 月 7 日 上午 5:30 
引用自 Jagulars
The fact that it needs to be explicitly specified is kind of a giveaway that the name alone is not sufficient.

It literally tells you what the product is:

"This Early Access game is NOT COMPLETE and MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE FURTHER.


Do AAA games have that disclaimer? No and why Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem were both abandoned.


Nowhere does it imply what you claim:

引用自 Jagulars
However, the name suggest that one day it will be,


If you do not want to see Early Access Games turn them off in your store preferences.
最后由 Nx Machina 编辑于; 12 月 7 日 上午 5:41
Jagulars 12 月 7 日 上午 5:57 
Okay, I agree with you that Early Access is the best possible name to describe it.
最后由 Jagulars 编辑于; 2 小时以前
"Paid Demo" would mean that you're not buying the game. Just like free demos don't give you a copy of the game.
引用自 Ben Lubar
"Paid Demo" would mean that you're not buying the game. Just like free demos don't give you a copy of the game.
The question is, is it a demo we're buying? If yes, it's a paid demo + the right to have a copy of the finished game in case it some day gets finished?

Perhaps "Unfinished Game" would be a better name.
引用自 Jagulars
引用自 Ben Lubar
"Paid Demo" would mean that you're not buying the game. Just like free demos don't give you a copy of the game.
The question is, is it a demo we're buying? If yes, it's a paid demo + the right to have a copy of the finished game in case it some day gets finished?

Perhaps "Unfinished Game" would be a better name.

That sounds like the kind of name you'd give to a graveyard for video games, not a nursery.
引用自 Jagulars
引用自 Ben Lubar
"Paid Demo" would mean that you're not buying the game. Just like free demos don't give you a copy of the game.
The question is, is it a demo we're buying? If yes, it's a paid demo + the right to have a copy of the finished game in case it some day gets finished?

Perhaps "Unfinished Game" would be a better name.

AS-IS game, you get what it is on that day with no expectation of anything else
The problem with AS-IS game is that many finished games could also qualify under that.
引用自 Touka Satomi
The problem with AS-IS game is that many finished games could also qualify under that.

"Art is never finished, only abandoned."
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
AS-IS game, you get what it is on that day with no expectation of anything else
I like that.

引用自 Touka Satomi
The problem with AS-IS game is that many finished games could also qualify under that.
It's obvious on finished games and there's no need to state the obvious. On unfinished games, it needs to be stated.
最后由 Jagulars 编辑于; 4 小时以前
there have been some good games to come from EA, other have abused the system to scam customers with half baked games. Anytime youre not getting the full product immediately youre taking a risk



引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
I cant even be bothered to type an original post on this topic, so this is all you get.
and i cant be bothered to whatever you copy and pasted
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