XYS 12 月 6 日 下午 6:31
Pricing of Steam Machine - a different approach
We don't really know when the RAM and SSD prices will stabilize, that's a fact. Chances are Steam Machine might be getting released in a time when it is very hard to give it a fixed price and not risk needing to subsidize every unit or changing the price constantly despite the outrage. What is worse, Valve would definitely be getting a huge reputation hit because of the inevitable high price of components caused by a third party's AI greed - especially because our expectations of low price will surely be shattered. They are in a lose-lose situation.


Thus, as a consumer, I would be completely content, if not happy, if VALVE decided to announce the price as follows:


Total price = "The original price they intended it to have including their margin" + "AI GREED TAX* that could be corrected accordingly to market situation"


- It would give me, a random consumer, a sense of some clarity when spending my money.
- It would point the consumer's anger at the actually responsible parties or mechanisms beyond VALVE's control.
- It would give VALVE more space to adjust the prices quicker (to lower or higher) with more credibility.
- It would stand in contrast to other hardware manufacturers who make use of the fluctuating prices of components to increase their margins beyond any sensible levels.
- It would help us remember long term about what could have been and how we are getting f'ed by the corporate greed.

*It doesn't need to be called AI GREED TAX, it doesn't really matter what it's called unless there is a legal issue (I'm not a solicitor so I don't know).


Yes, this is just a simple psychological trick, a way to rationalize buying Steam Machine due to having more information and some more control in exchange for the higher price.

We need to remember that in this screwed up situation VALVE became a victim of circumstances as much as us, gamers, and they should be able to somehow protect themselves from being painted a villain, because, at the end of the day, it is us who would be paying for that in one way or another. Yes, this sounds parasocial, but so does having a Vtuber hugging pillow, chill out.
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Ben Lubar 12 月 6 日 下午 6:35 
Representing the price as two separate payments despite it costing the full amount to get anything is the kind of scam infomercials love to pull.
XYS 12 月 6 日 下午 6:53 
Yes, absolutely, scammers do that. First question is though, do you regard VALVE as scammers? I think they have deserved a bit more benefit of a doubt than a random infomercial channel.

Second question is, why when you do anything in construction, you need to provide the investor with accurate estimates of every constituent at every point of progress, be it before, during or after complition? Would it be better had contractors given you a random price before and random, higher price after the complition? I think not. In case of Steam Machine more information is better.

When you think about it, VALVE could just simply release their original intended price around the time when they announce the actual one, but in the end people will only see a large, four digit sum and a reason to be pissed.
Ettanin 12 月 6 日 下午 6:57 
Valve will not disclose the manufacturing and part sourcing costs of the hardware they sell because this would make them vulnerable to judgment, both good and bad, on the commercial level and provide an unnecessary edge to competitiors.
Release batch (been in production since before Valve's announcement) shouldn't be impacted by it.

:nkCool:
Nx Machina 12 月 6 日 下午 7:14 
引用自 XYS
We don't really know when the RAM and SSD prices will stabilize, that's a fact.

We don't and Valve will set the price accordingly.

As a consumer purchasing is voluntary not mandatory.
glizzwald 12 月 6 日 下午 9:17 
"It would give VALVE more space to adjust the prices quicker (to lower or higher) with more credibility"

The thing is value has the most credibility of any online gaming platform already, for example when fortnite dies, there's a potential situation that epic's marketplace goes down under too with your whole library there, that obviously wont happen for value even if their games or products die.
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