What method of Age Verification do you propose Valve uses?

Keep in mind Valve isn't going to want to keep any PII on their servers.

Here's a hint, if the UK amends the law and credit cards aren't valid age verification you shouldn't be surprised if all UK users are restricted with no options... like the Germans with their own similar law, except credit cards aren't valid age verification.

Credit cards on file as age verification have two advantages in favor for Valve:
1) they don't need to contain personally identifiable information to function and by UK law, only adults can obtain them.
2) it's too high a risk to share a credit card to a stranger in order to help them bypass age verification.

It's highly unlikely that Valve will add other methods because a) too easy to bypass, b) too risky to keep data for.

They can use National ID Cards: Many countries issue national identification cards, often with photo and biometric data, Digital ID Wallets or even phone numbers there are many other ways to prove someone's age that Is not going to restrict a large amount of people who are of legal age and have means of proving it but are denied the chance to prove their age because they don't own a credit card.

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What method of Age Verification do you propose Valve uses?

Keep in mind Valve isn't going to want to keep any PII on their servers.

they are already keeping PII by requiring age verification.... they don't care about that otherwise it would not be a thing.

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Credit cards on file as age verification have two advantages in favor for Valve:
1) they don't need to contain personally identifiable information to function and by UK law, only adults can obtain them.
2) it's too high a risk to share a credit card to a stranger in order to help them bypass age verification.

It's highly unlikely that Valve will add other methods because a) too easy to bypass, b) too risky to keep data for.

Sooooo many kids steal parents credit cards all the time so that makes credit cards useless

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Here's a hint, if the UK amends the law and credit cards aren't valid age verification you shouldn't be surprised if all UK users are restricted with no options... like the Germans with their own similar law, except credit cards aren't valid age verification.

the UK is ♥♥♥♥ with laws and our government are even worse I doubt it will get better from that side of things not until civil war breaks out.

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They can use National ID Cards: Many countries issue national identification cards, often with photo and biometric data, Digital ID Wallets or even phone numbers there are many other ways to prove someone's age that Is not going to restrict a large amount of people who are of legal age and have means of proving it but are denied the chance to prove their age because they don't own a credit card.

Valve chose the method that satisfies Ofcoms rules, is the least privacy intrusive and requires no 3rd party integration as Valve already has credit card handling systems in-place.

Other methods require 3rd party integration and has a pay per verification cost.

Blame the Tories and Liebour for this Orwellian mess

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Its stupid to make it Credit card Verified for age when not everyone who is an adult has credit cards or cant get one because of bad credit so your essentially restricting a large number of people that are of legal age to verify their ages. Please fix this for love of everything fair.

You want Valve collecting more information? Are you part of the UK surveillance state?
Also your profile says Japan which isn't subject to the UK restrictions.

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Here's a hint, if the UK amends the law and credit cards aren't valid age verification you shouldn't be surprised if all UK users are restricted with no options... like the Germans with their own similar law, except credit cards aren't valid age verification.

the UK is ♥♥♥♥ with laws and our government are even worse I doubt it will get better from that side of things not until civil war breaks out.

That's not Valve's problem to solve.

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Credit cards on file as age verification have two advantages in favor for Valve:
1) they don't need to contain personally identifiable information to function and by UK law, only adults can obtain them.
2) it's too high a risk to share a credit card to a stranger in order to help them bypass age verification.

It's highly unlikely that Valve will add other methods because a) too easy to bypass, b) too risky to keep data for.

Sooooo many kids steal parents credit cards all the time so that makes credit cards useless

Valve only needs to follow the law, not your opinions of the details.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Violet Skies:

What method of Age Verification do you propose Valve uses?

Keep in mind Valve isn't going to want to keep any PII on their servers.

they are already keeping PII by requiring age verification.... they don't care about that otherwise it would not be a thing.

No, because you can put anything in. There's no way to verify accuracy, it's not PII.

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They can use National ID Cards: Many countries issue national identification cards, often with photo and biometric data, Digital ID Wallets or even phone numbers there are many other ways to prove someone's age that Is not going to restrict a large amount of people who are of legal age and have means of proving it but are denied the chance to prove their age because they don't own a credit card.

Restricting everyone is a valid implementation. The credit card requirement is so trivial they did that. If not for that all UK users would be restricted. What Valve could do doesn't matter, because what they chose ain't anything you think it should be.