Achievements can easily be cheated on steam

What simply showing of the achievements themselves isn't enough?

To be honest, only a VERY small part of the user base cares about achievements.

Neither your friends nor strangers care.

From zero to a hundred thousand GS in the click of a button!

Oprindeligt skrevet af Biot-Savart:

Steam Achievements are often overlooked and I wish we were rewarded with greater benefits for attaining them. Create a gamerscore type system where we can show off to our friends and strangers.

I agree and would like to see this as well. I know steam achievements can easily be cheated but its also easy to tell when someone worked for them. At least make them easily visible or pop out on the steam page more.
Similar to the PlayStation trophies would also be great.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Biot-Savart:

Steam Achievements are often overlooked and I wish we were rewarded with greater benefits for attaining them. Create a gamerscore type system where we can show off to our friends and strangers.

Achievement showcase = Gamerscore.

Secondly can you explain why the system on Playstation and Xbox is deemed superior yet games get abandoned on consoles?

Oprindeligt skrevet af Nx Machina:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Biot-Savart:

Steam Achievements are often overlooked and I wish we were rewarded with greater benefits for attaining them. Create a gamerscore type system where we can show off to our friends and strangers.

Achievement showcase = Gamerscore.

Secondly can you explain why the system on Playstation and Xbox is deemed superior yet games get abandoned on consoles?

Oprindeligt skrevet af Nx Machina:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Biot-Savart:

Steam Achievements are often overlooked and I wish we were rewarded with greater benefits for attaining them. Create a gamerscore type system where we can show off to our friends and strangers.

Achievement showcase = Gamerscore.

Secondly can you explain why the system on Playstation and Xbox is deemed superior yet games get abandoned on consoles?

It's a lot more thuoroughly designed. Beginning with the sound of the achievement on a playstation, which is legendary - it sounds truly rewarding. Here on steam the system feels like it was just added because it had to be added, unlike on the consoles, where the system is more than just a number. It's a system, which is deeply integrated in the DNA of the platform, unlike on steam, where its just slapped on.

One huge miss is that there's no weighting of achievements on steam, on a playstation you have bronze, silver and gold trophies, indicating the difficulty to obtain, but also giving the players something powerful to showcase. Looking at a players trophies on a playstation profile definitely holds more excitement than looking at people's achievement here on steam... here it's just numbers, in many cases boosted by nonsense achievemnt clickers, which undermine the credibility of the system.

But biggest issue is that there isn't really any depth to achievements, bronze, silver gold trophies add depth to the system, which steam lacks. Sure, you have "perfect game completion", but that's really not the same as a neat trophy classification, which isn't only structured well, but also finished off perfectly with a high quality design. Looking at a psn trophy has something steam just cannot achieve, no matter how different achievement showcases there are. None of them match the authenticity of a PSN profile's trophy section.

But yeah, you've shown more than enough that you openly deny an achievement system, so you'll probably never get it why people can be passionate about it.

There are third party websites like SteamHunters that have a cross-game scoring system for achievements. They handle assigning the scores, which means that neither Valve nor the game developers have to spend time on that.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:

There are third party websites like SteamHunters that have a cross-game scoring system for achievements. They handle assigning the scores, which means that neither Valve nor the game developers have to spend time on that.

It’s being suggested to integrate a system like that into steam directly….. The fact that third party websites exist only confirms that it’s a feature people would use.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Shreddy:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:

There are third party websites like SteamHunters that have a cross-game scoring system for achievements. They handle assigning the scores, which means that neither Valve nor the game developers have to spend time on that.

It’s being suggested to integrate a system like that into steam directly….. The fact that third party websites exist only confirms that it’s a feature people would use.

I also explained in the post you quoted why it's not worth having tens of thousands of development studios replicate the work that SteamHunters has already done.

Oprindeligt skrevet af ?legit:

It's a lot more thuoroughly designed. Beginning with the sound of the achievement on a playstation, which is legendary - it sounds truly rewarding.

And yet it does not stop games getting abandoned on Console.

Oprindeligt skrevet af ?legit:

But yeah, you've shown more than enough that you openly deny an achievement system, so you'll probably never get it why people can be passionate about it.

PC is an open platform, Console is not.

Open steam console.

Enter appid.

Give cheevo.

??

Profit.

Welcome to PC gaming.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mr. Smiles:

Open steam console.

Enter appid.

Give cheevo.

??

Profit.

Welcome to PC gaming.

What command is that? I only see commands to clear a specific achievement and to clear all achievements.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mr. Smiles:

Open steam console.

Enter appid.

Give cheevo.

??

Profit.

Welcome to PC gaming.

What command is that? I only see commands to clear a specific achievement and to clear all achievements.

Seems you are correct, damn that Oracle and its lies. More reason to distrust AI.

Anyway, for actual results, use SAM.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Nx Machina:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ?legit:

It's a lot more thuoroughly designed. Beginning with the sound of the achievement on a playstation, which is legendary - it sounds truly rewarding.

And yet it does not stop games getting abandoned on Console.

Oprindeligt skrevet af ?legit:

But yeah, you've shown more than enough that you openly deny an achievement system, so you'll probably never get it why people can be passionate about it.

PC is an open platform, Console is not.

Whether games get abandoned (every does at some point) or not is completely irrelevant to an improved achievement system.