Will Steam ever adopt Dynamic pricing?
If you make less, you pay almost nothing, but if you make more, you would have a higher cost. It's an interesting experiment that Instacart has been doing using people's personal data and market data with AI to changes prices as you shop based on who people are, and to see just how willing you are to buy stuff and I believe other big box stores adapting to this rapidly changing market as well. You could even have AI shop for you and just deal with the transanctions for you while you game!

Here is some sources to explain the idea better.

https://www.omniaretail.com/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-dynamic-pricing
(Swearing alert for video, but clearly he is from the East Coast)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk387kD9Cy4

I think this is really the future of AI and it's not just viable to food and gaming, but also your personal social life, where you hang out, dating apps, etc at all times everywhere. Seems pretty cool! :steamhappy:
最后由 McFlurry Butts 编辑于; 13 小时以前
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Sounds like the thing that airline companies and hotels have been doing for decades to charge people more money the more they browse the website.

If "the future of AI" is having an unsupervised computer program make purchases on my behalf without my knowledge or consent, that sounds like a nightmare.
AI is expensive to rent (Valve likely wouldn’t want to build their own AI, that’d be even more expensive), bad for the environment, and would be mining users’ personal data without their consent if they did this.

I don’t really think the trade-off of likely “slightly cheaper games” is worth this much privacy invasion.

Also, AI in dating apps? Why on Earth would anyone want that?

引用自 Ben Lubar
If "the future of AI" is having an unsupervised computer program make purchases on my behalf without my knowledge or consent, that sounds like a nightmare.

LMAO, this too. Can just imagine an automated system buying the new (and old) titles I browse the pages of the most frequently to see if there’s a sale and auto-buying them at “a high dynamic price” because I visited the pages a lot. No thanks.
最后由 KrakenGreywolf 编辑于; 13 小时以前
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AI is expensive to rent (Valve likely wouldn’t want to build their own AI, that’d be even more expensive), bad for the environment, and would be mining users’ personal data without their consent if they did this.

I don’t really think the trade-off of likely “slightly cheaper games” is worth this much privacy invasion.

Also, AI in dating apps? Why on Earth would anyone want that?
I think it's really becoming more of a situation where corporations won't have a choice. Like some law will probably be implemented under the guise of fair business or something similar to prop up the AI market.

It might be the answer to the wealth inequality issue in the US, everyone can afford stuff, but the megarich still hold most wealth.
最后由 McFlurry Butts 编辑于; 13 小时以前
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引用自 KrakenGreywolf
AI is expensive to rent (Valve likely wouldn’t want to build their own AI, that’d be even more expensive), bad for the environment, and would be mining users’ personal data without their consent if they did this.

I don’t really think the trade-off of likely “slightly cheaper games” is worth this much privacy invasion.

Also, AI in dating apps? Why on Earth would anyone want that?
I think it's really becoming more of a situation where corporations won't have a choice. Like some law will probably be implemented under the guise of fair business or something similar to prop up the AI market.

I don’t make too many predictions about the future these days, but I think the AI bubble is going to burst in the next few years. I can’t see any law sticking either-especially not in countries outside of the US (and Valve’s a private company that could afford to move its headquarters overseas to avoid such nonsense even if it became law in the US).
I have two main issues with this idea.

First, income alone is a very poor proxy for disposable income. Someone earning $30,000 with no dependents can easily have more disposable money than a family of three earning $80,000 once housing, childcare, debt, and cost of living are factored in. Unless Steam is accounting for all of that, the system would be arbitrary. If it does account for it, then by its very nature it has become incredibly invasive. I'm not overly interested in providing that level of financial detail to a gaming platform.

The second issue which may sound callous, but it is what it is.... I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect people to pay more in order to subsidize someone else’s access to a non-essential hobby. Gaming is not an essential service or basic human need. I’m not opposed to sales, regional pricing, or developers choosing to offer lower prices, but I don’t see why consumers with higher incomes should be obligated to fund other peoples entertainment.
最后由 imaginecatchynamehere 编辑于; 11 小时以前
I can see a major flaw here of "How to get fined 275 million or more like epic for intentionally collecting data on minors".

Steam sales & publisher sales make all of that stuff rather needless as it gives most people the ability to afford things at discounts.

Rather not involve thing for ai this, ai that, and other resource hogging data mining activities. This seems very counter to how valve operates.

Also charging people more that are perceived as making more would be falsely advertising prices & deceptive business practices as the prices are set in stone per accepted and set currency.
最后由 Mad Scientist 编辑于; 11 小时以前
引用自 McFlurry Butts
I think this is really the future of AI and it's not just viable to food and gaming, but also your personal social life, where you hang out, dating apps, etc at all times everywhere. Seems pretty cool! :steamhappy:
If you think this will create cheaper than base pricing for those who may not be able to afford that price, you're fooling yourself. Prices will only be higher for people the AI "assumes" can afford higher prices, and if you think the super rich will somehow pay more, you're fooling yourself.

Dynamic pricing is only meant to make the richer people richer.

It is far from "cool". Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Give Valve access to my financials … yea what possibly could go wrong?
最后由 SpeedFreak1972 编辑于; 9 小时以前
引用自 McFlurry Butts
引用自 KrakenGreywolf
AI is expensive to rent (Valve likely wouldn’t want to build their own AI, that’d be even more expensive), bad for the environment, and would be mining users’ personal data without their consent if they did this.

I don’t really think the trade-off of likely “slightly cheaper games” is worth this much privacy invasion.

Also, AI in dating apps? Why on Earth would anyone want that?
I think it's really becoming more of a situation where corporations won't have a choice. Like some law will probably be implemented under the guise of fair business or something similar to prop up the AI market.

It might be the answer to the wealth inequality issue in the US, everyone can afford stuff, but the megarich still hold most wealth.
American jurisprudence and lawmaking does tend to create situations where certain demographics pay more while others enjoy benefits at no cost or penalty but it certainly is not income inequality that drives this lawmaking. Even the most left politicians out there do not give the slightest care about income inequality, and that goes well beyond America.
引用自 McFlurry Butts
Will Steam ever adopt Dynamic pricing?

If you make less, you pay almost nothing, but if you make more, you would have a higher cost. It's an interesting experiment that Instacart has been doing using people's personal data and market data with AI to changes prices as you shop based on who people are, and to see just how willing you are to buy stuff and I believe other big box stores adapting to this rapidly changing market as well. You could even have AI shop for you and just deal with the transanctions for you while you game!

Here is some sources to explain the idea better.

https://www.omniaretail.com/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-dynamic-pricing
(Swearing alert for video, but clearly he is from the East Coast)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk387kD9Cy4

I think this is really the future of AI and it's not just viable to food and gaming, but also your personal social life, where you hang out, dating apps, etc at all times everywhere. Seems pretty cool! :steamhappy:

Surveillance Pricing is a big no for many people.

Then there is this...

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/protecting-new-yorkers-secret-online-price-hikes-governor-hochul-announces-nation-leading

So, probably not.

:nkCool:
最后由 cSg|mc-Hotsauce 编辑于; 7 小时以前
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