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小魔游戏（热游版) 24. nov. kl. 14:11
【Precise Labeling Request】Clearly mark "Supports Offline Single-Player" / "Requires Always-On Internet" for both PC and Steam Deck, avoiding offline accidental downloads of internet-only games.
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Function suggestion: Both PC and Steam Deck should simultaneously mark "Always Connected" games on the store page/library to prevent accidental downloads due to lack of Internet access during business trips

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Hello, Steam customer service

Due to frequent business trips, I often encounter environments without Internet access. I have mistakenly downloaded games that require a full Internet connection several times (90GB of data wasted and SD space, but when I get on the vehicle, I can only view the login interface).

Please synchronize the following reminders on PC and Steam Deck without any additional Settings:

The sidebar of the store page is uniformly displayed

Offline support: ✓ fully offline / ⚠ online required for the first time / ✕ full Internet connection
When the network in the library is disconnected, a gray lock icon will be automatically added to the "✕" game, and a floating window will prompt "This game is offline and cannot run".
3. Double confirmation before download (including PC client and Steam Deck game mode) :

"Detected that you are not connected to the Internet, this game requires a full Internet connection. Do you still need to continue downloading?" "

If the above functions can be launched simultaneously on PC and Deck, it will completely prevent accidental downloads. Please convey this to the product team. Thank you!

Environment: Windows 11 + Steam Deck OLED 1TB, frequent flight mode/Hotspot extremely poor.
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Shreddy 24. nov. kl. 14:17 
+1 great idea, this seems especially important for the steam deck
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William Shakesman 24. nov. kl. 14:27 
In my experience Valve has been perfectly fine with publishers not disclosing that an active internet connection is required to play their game with no online multiplayer component and does not feel that falsely presenting minimum requirements by omitting that information represents a violation of any standard they feel like enforcing.

This problem has annoyed me for a while and I had hoped the Deck would get Valve in the market to request devs put in a minimum amount of effort to provide this information but Valve's laziness and ineptitude matches the devs in this measure.
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Ben Lubar 24. nov. kl. 15:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af 小魔游戏（热游版):
"Detected that you are not connected to the Internet, this game requires a full Internet connection. Do you still need to continue downloading?" "

How are you downloading games while not connected to the internet?
Sidst redigeret af Ben Lubar; 24. nov. kl. 19:36
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Hikari Light 24. nov. kl. 16:08 
If you are downloading the game, you obviously need to be online with Internet access.

And the games already have on their store page an indicator stating if the game needs Internet access to play.
If the game does not state the need for Internet access to play, then that means you can play the game while not connected to the Internet.

But you always need to be connected to the Internet to download them.
Sidst redigeret af Hikari Light; 24. nov. kl. 16:30
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William Shakesman 24. nov. kl. 17:47 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Hikari Light:
If you are downloading the game, you obviously need to be online with Internet access.

And the games already have on their store page an indicator stating if the game needs Internet access to play.
If the game does not state the need for Internet access to play, then that means you can play the game while not connected to the Internet.

But you always need to be connected to the Internet to download them.
He literally explains this in the OP. He downloads games at home to play on business trips when he leaves the house with the gaming device. I really wish people would get some more life experience to understand how other people use gaming devices before posting here and saying things like "How can you ever be without internet?" It is quite easy actually, it just requires you to leave the house.

Also,
Oprindeligt skrevet af Hikari Light:
If the game does not state the need for Internet access to play, then that means you can play the game while not connected to the Internet.
As I explained earlier, this is explicitly false. Valve has no requirement for this to be the case and there is at least one game I personally know of on Steam where it is NOT the case, where it does not list an internet requirement, but the game does not function without one.
Sidst redigeret af William Shakesman; 24. nov. kl. 17:48
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Mad Scientist 24. nov. kl. 17:53 
Closest thing for now would likely be tags. It would be convenient overall though for people that travel that might not always have an internet connection to focus on games compatible with offline mode/offline SP.

If that was directly supported, it could make Collections even more useful, rather than manually doing it all.
Sidst redigeret af Mad Scientist; 24. nov. kl. 17:53
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William Shakesman 24. nov. kl. 17:54 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Mad Scientist:
Closest thing for now would likely be tags. It would be convenient overall though for people that travel that might not always have an internet connection to focus on games compatible with offline mode/offline SP.

If that was directly supported, it could make Collections even more useful, rather than manually doing it all.
System requirements or other hard, known, objective facts about games are not appropriately handled through community tags. That is not what that system is designed for, and the tags requiring Valve's approval and a significant mass of users all tagging items the same way both make this an abysmal answer to the problem. There is ALREADY a "System Requirements" section on every single Steam page. And I would think "The game has a hard requirement that it cannot operate without that is not even attempted to be explained in the Requirements section" is a pretty slam dunk problem with an obvious answer*.

*(N.B. A consensus among several members of this forum is that store pages displaying How Long to Beat data on games could represent a legal liability for Steam if those hour counts are even slightly inaccurate. Those users, as one might predict, do not feel that a System Requirements section that clearly does not list an important and nontrivial requirement could ever have the same danger, which tells you a lot about the knowledge of legal liabilities amongst this forum.)
Sidst redigeret af William Shakesman; 24. nov. kl. 18:01
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Ben Lubar 24. nov. kl. 19:40 
Any game that has gone through Steam Deck Verification has been tested for this.

requires_internet_for_setup
requires_internet_for_singleplayer

If you know of any games that fail either of these tests, they should have a specific message about it in the list of reasons they failed verification.

Edit: Found one: https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3611995117

Any singleplayer game with the green "verified" rating should be safe to play offline without any problems.
Sidst redigeret af Ben Lubar; 24. nov. kl. 19:44
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