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Lady Jack 11 月 22 日 下午 11:56
Value Motivation change to the Trading Cards and Game Badges
My understanding of the current Trading Card and Badge system:
Players obtain trading cards for a game through game play, booster packs, and trading with other players. The goal is usually to "complete a set" of cards for the game.

They then have the choice of having the set of cards or trading those cards in for a badge - at which point the cards are gone, but the player gets some amount of "Steam Experience" and typically a "community item".

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Problem as I see it:
I personally am rarely, if ever, motivated to trade my hard sought after Trading Cards in for the badge... I want the badge, but I've played the game, bought booster packs with items I changed into gems, and then worked through any number of trades to have a complete set with no duplicates... The idea of trading all that effort for a single "community item", Badge status, and some amount of Steam Experience... just isn't motivating...

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My suggested improvement:
Have the reward for the first game badge continue to be Steam Experience, but instead of a community item, just change the state of the cards such that they can't be Traded, Turned into Gems, Nor Exchanged in any manner... But can still be viewed and "held" by the player... Everything else would stay the same - to get the next level badge you have to trade and use booster packs as always (or whatever mechanism exists for the game to unlock more drops). But that first set of cards would simply remain with the player.

This would certainly motivate me to complete the first badge for may favorite games, and I think you would see more people trading items for gems to get more booster packs to complete more game badges. This would also add activity to the trading card discussion groups as well as the "Steam Markets" for the cards.
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引用自 JPMcMillen:
I don't need more stuff clogging up my inventory. I've got enough stuff in there as it is and certainly don't need a bunch of used cards in there taking up space (especially with how many badges I've crafted over 12+ years).
Besides, if you click on a maxed out badge you can see all the cards in the set. And there's nothing stopping you from buying/collecting a 6th set of cards if you really just have to have a set.
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Crazy Tiger 11 月 23 日 上午 12:44 
Ah, have the cake and eat it too.

I think you don't underatand the engagement driving part behind it all. The point is that you have to spend money on the market to have it all.

Your personal motivation might not actually be of importance there.
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imaginecatchynamehere 11 月 23 日 上午 1:11 
I would be the opposite in that if I were to craft a badge I'd rather have the community item, which can then be sold or turned into gems, rather than a copy of the trading cards that can only be viewed. I can see how it'd appeal to 'collectors', but what's the appeal to anyone else?
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JPMcMillen 11 月 23 日 上午 2:09 
I don't need more stuff clogging up my inventory. I've got enough stuff in there as it is and certainly don't need a bunch of used cards in there taking up space (especially with how many badges I've crafted over 12+ years).
Besides, if you click on a maxed out badge you can see all the cards in the set. And there's nothing stopping you from buying/collecting a 6th set of cards if you really just have to have a set.
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Tito Shivan 11 月 23 日 上午 2:13 
An easy solution is for Valve to make the set visible on your completed badges, as it shows on the ones you have incomplete sets.
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JPMcMillen 11 月 23 日 上午 2:29 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
An easy solution is for Valve to make the set visible on your completed badges, as it shows on the ones you have incomplete sets.
It does.
If you click on any of your fully completed game badges (max level), it will show the cards. If you do it on someone else's badge, it will show the cards if their inventory isn't hidden from you.

Edit:
Here are two of mine
Elden Ring Level 5 Badge
Elden Ring Foil Badge
最后由 JPMcMillen 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 2:34
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Tito Shivan 11 月 23 日 上午 2:43 
引用自 JPMcMillen：
It does.
If you click on any of your fully completed game badges (max level), it will show the cards. If you do it on someone else's badge, it will show the cards if their inventory isn't hidden from you.
If you click on them yes. I meant showing them next to the completed badge as it happens on the badges page for sets you don't have completed.
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JPMcMillen 11 月 23 日 上午 2:54 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
引用自 JPMcMillen：
It does.
If you click on any of your fully completed game badges (max level), it will show the cards. If you do it on someone else's badge, it will show the cards if their inventory isn't hidden from you.
If you click on them yes. I meant showing them next to the completed badge as it happens on the badges page for sets you don't have completed.
The page currently only shows up to 5 cards per badge, and given that some games have 15, the badge page would become quite messy pretty quick. Either they'd have to expand the area for each badge to fit them all in, or shrink the cards to make them fit the current area. Neither is a really good solution.
最后由 JPMcMillen 编辑于; 11 月 23 日 上午 2:56
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Tito Shivan 11 月 23 日 上午 2:59 
引用自 JPMcMillen：
引用自 Tito Shivan：
If you click on them yes. I meant showing them next to the completed badge as it happens on the badges page for sets you don't have completed.
The page currently only shows up to 5 cards per badge, and given that some games have 15, the badge page would become quite messy pretty quick. Either they'd have to expand the area for each badge to fit them all in, or shrink the cards to make them fit. Neither is a really good solution.
Anything is better than cluttering our inventories with even more stuff we can't get rid of. (I stopped claiming stickers since I barely chat on Steam and they just take up space)

Just imagine how the inventory of people who crafts hundreds of badges would be...
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JPMcMillen 11 月 23 日 上午 3:06 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
引用自 JPMcMillen：
The page currently only shows up to 5 cards per badge, and given that some games have 15, the badge page would become quite messy pretty quick. Either they'd have to expand the area for each badge to fit them all in, or shrink the cards to make them fit. Neither is a really good solution.
Anything is better than cluttering our inventories with even more stuff we can't get rid of. (I stopped claiming stickers since I barely chat on Steam and they just take up space)

Just imagine how the inventory of people who crafts hundreds of badges would be...

I would know. I have more than a few badges that required sets of 15 cards. I'm really glad I'm not eternally stuck with them.
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Crazy Tiger 11 月 23 日 上午 5:04 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
引用自 JPMcMillen：
The page currently only shows up to 5 cards per badge, and given that some games have 15, the badge page would become quite messy pretty quick. Either they'd have to expand the area for each badge to fit them all in, or shrink the cards to make them fit. Neither is a really good solution.
Anything is better than cluttering our inventories with even more stuff we can't get rid of. (I stopped claiming stickers since I barely chat on Steam and they just take up space)

Just imagine how the inventory of people who crafts hundreds of badges would be...
It does on the library page: https://imgur.com/a/J5cd8Cs
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Lady Jack 11 月 23 日 下午 4:33 
引用自 JPMcMillen：
I don't need more stuff clogging up my inventory. I've got enough stuff in there as it is and certainly don't need a bunch of used cards in there taking up space (especially with how many badges I've crafted over 12+ years).
Besides, if you click on a maxed out badge you can see all the cards in the set. And there's nothing stopping you from buying/collecting a 6th set of cards if you really just have to have a set.


Thanks - I honestly didn't realize that in a completed set I could click on the cards I no longer have and still view them... so in essence what I wanted is already there - maybe not as clearly as I would have liked... but there in principle anyway.
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