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Stop spamming the forums with your off topic threads..
This is a STEAM related sub-forum, to discuss Ideas and suggestions for valve to make to the steam User Interface on the App, client and website and the online steam services.
It does not cover pricing, the steam equipment, the steamdeck or any game related threads.
That doesn't mean they can't be "gamers" but it certainly feels lately like it's a company that struck it rich (half-life + steam) and has since been resting on laurels.
And how did the first steambox turn out?
I was ariound during that time and the majority of those in the forums were scratching their heads wondering why Valve, a PC game platform was developing a "console".
There were too many and too expensive. Not to mention controller support at that time was in it's infancy.
I tried an Alienware Alpha at the time, and given lack of controller support for the games i wanted to play, i sent it back to Dell.
These days Steam have evolved not and day from those issues, and with that cross play and other popular matters that would make a Steam Box easier to use and more palatable to console users.
However as i said, pricing has to be key, being if they're priced like an X or PS5, people are not likely going to leave Game Pass, Sony Exclusives and the vast sports market for this console, particularly when Xbox may be doing the same giving access to Steam on a PC based console.
There were only 3, and the differences were easy to understand, and I'm pretty sure this new version is not going to be cheap by any means.
IMO, a PC game company trying to sell consoles is like a vegitarian resturant tryinfg to sell its customers meat.
Look at the conversations (not just on the STEAM forums) based on PC vs console and you will see just how anti-console a good sized portion of PC gamers are.
The mobile handheld device was one thing, this is quite another.
Knowing what you're doing isn't some guarantee of success.
I mean for contrast, Nintendo knows what they're doing. They've had a lot more successes than misses. But they have missed pretty hard, Virtual Boy, WiiU, and GameCube is borderline at best.
So yeah Valve's had some things flop. But those failures don't necessarily have impacts on future ventures. Past successes and failures don't guarantee future successes or failures.
Valve can afford to experiment and see what sticks. And everyone who can't, but thinks their armchair expertise is important is really kidding themselves.
And what happens if the Steam Machine fails again? Nothing. Valve will still make billions and they'll try something else. Or maybe they'll try a Steam Machine again in the 2030's. And they'll be able to do that because it's almost like Valve might know something about what they're doing, as hard as that may be to accept.
Idt Mr Newell is looking for the PC market to sell his consoles. He's looking for the console market, that right now is not doing well due to pricing and other issues. He wants to fill that void.
If prices are competive he will get some share of the PC market, being i would think a good number of those who play on PC also play on console.
But the bulk of it, like Steam Deck trying to poach those Nintendo Switch like folks, the same will happen with the Steam Box in regards to console users.
So you think PC gamers didn't want a portable handheld gaming PC? Only Switch users want a portable gaming machine?
I'm just amazed at everyone who thinks every product that is released is focused on stealing someone else's business. It's so simple minded it's laughable. The Steam Machine is just a prebuilt PC not some kind of console killer, or even console toe stubber. There's already a market for prebuilt PC's, and they're not focused on "poaching" console gamers either. Besides, dollars to donuts a lot of PC gamers own a console or two also. Games are fun regardless of the platform... and the gaming pie is plenty big enough for Valve to make a prebuilt PC that comes with SteamOS installed.
I mean if we're worried about "poaching", I think gaming PC oem's have more to worry about than console makers.
I really can't see people dropping hundreds of dollars or the equivilent for another console, especially when the PC they already have plays the games the box will.
I have no doubt that some will buy it, but I do not think it will be anywhere near enough to make it a success, just like the steambox, and I think the failure of the steambox is something that is going to cause a whole lot of people to think twice before dropping that kind of money on it.
Peole bought the STEAM handheld because they wanted to play their STEAM library on the go....this is not that, not even close.
Now we can see Steam actually trying things.
I don't see anyone who has been around Steam for long enough still not seeing what's Valve's long plan here.
Then again, the "confusion" boils down to "PC vs console" childish BS, so not surprising actually.