Devs need to say if they use an anti-cheat or not...
Hi guys,


-> I bought The Crew 2 few days ago
-> Offline mod added, low price, sound good, a lot of improvements

BUT ! What a surprise when I download and launche the game...

The game need BATTLEYE as an anti-cheat

BUT IT NEVER MENTIONNED NOWHERE ! And for me that's a problem....

I'm playing a lot of online games:

-> CCG card games (hey, it's great, don't judge ahah),
-> PoE II
-> GW 2 (not anymore Sadge),
-> TESO,
-> WOW (not anymore too),
-> Battlefront 2 (i'm bad but I do my best)

And they don't need an intrusive anti-cheat...

-> Devs should say on steam page If they use an anti-cheat
-> Even a not intrusive one, like Battlefrond 2 / The division
-> Its a 100% transparancy and it helps players like me


My point is:

-> I don't want to abuse with steam refund system because devs said nothing about an anti-cheat
-> I know some of new mmorpg (not online game !) need an anti-cheat (blue protocol, etc)
-> Even in that case, it's not added on steam page...
-> Some offline games with a multiplayer component have also an anti-cheat like Lord of the fallen (but it mentionned on steam page for this one)
-> And that's a problem too because a lot of games like LOTF don't mentionned any AC


Last point:

-> It's dumb for some people to ask that and I get it
-> I'm scared about an intrusive kernel anti-cheat even if 10m+ players has nothing..

Dunno is for you it's a good idea or not but it will be great for me

Have a nice day
最后由 Courier N°6 - Emissary Of Vegas 编辑于; 10 月 18 日 上午 12:50
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It is mentioned in the system requirements

Additional Notes: Game contains BattlEye anti-cheat technology and VMProtect anti-piracy technology.
really anti cheat is just a money maker for cheaters. they shouldn't even bother with the anti cheat in games.

rather expect people are gonna cheat, expect everyone is cheating such as counterstrike, after a while those idiots who user cheats realize its extremely boring and they also realize hey suck an have zero skills without the cheats.

anti cheat is a bane on our privacy and really needs to be elimiated from very game.

there is not one single game that uses anti-cheat, that doesn't have a slue of cheaters who have already got around the anti-cheat.

all anti-cheat does is keep the noobs from leveling the playing field vs the cheaters.
最后由 Golden Unicorn 编辑于; 10 月 18 日 上午 4:27
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon
It is mentioned in the system requirements

Additional Notes: Game contains BattlEye anti-cheat technology and VMProtect anti-piracy technology.

Oh. You are right. Some games it's in yellow you know, when it said "need Ubisoft Account "
And not all game have this... Even on bottom page like you said (thanks for the tips tho)

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I dunno what to say tbh
Hikari Light 10 月 18 日 上午 8:18 
引用自 Golden Unicorn
really anti cheat is just a money maker for cheaters. they shouldn't even bother with the anti cheat in games.

rather expect people are gonna cheat, expect everyone is cheating such as counterstrike, after a while those idiots who user cheats realize its extremely boring and they also realize hey suck an have zero skills without the cheats.

anti cheat is a bane on our privacy and really needs to be elimiated from very game.

there is not one single game that uses anti-cheat, that doesn't have a slue of cheaters who have already got around the anti-cheat.

all anti-cheat does is keep the noobs from leveling the playing field vs the cheaters.

There is no perfect Anti-Cheat that always catches all cheaters.
Also, the cheater has to actually cheat before an Anti-Cheat can kick in.

And if "normal" players start cheating to even the playing field, they have now become cheaters and are now part of the problem, not it's solution.

Anti-Cheats work more than you may think, but there is more to how an Anti-Cheat works than you seem to understand.
Tbh, I don't mind if there is an AC
I don't want an intrusive AC...

Some games without works perfectly and the worst of that ?
Both games (without / with ac) has an another problem

Fck gold/farm sellers
Nx Machina 10 月 18 日 下午 11:58 
引用自 Golden Unicorn
really anti cheat is just a money maker for cheaters. they shouldn't even bother with the anti cheat in games.

It is a money maker for those that create cheats.

For those that play fairly, cheaters being banned is why anti-cheats exists.

32,183,051 VAC Banned Profiles - 23,119,904 Game Banned Profiles

https://ibb.co/1GV4Yc8T
I know it's a good things but I don't know why some games has one and others not
And when they don't have, they haven't many cheaters and both games with / without anti-cheat has an another problem like I said
Hikari.ws 10 月 21 日 下午 7:35 
It´d be nice, but of course Valve don´t add it, as they don´t flag games that have Denuvo and other intrusive DRM. Valve is always on their side, never on ours.

On a side note, M$ should offer more layers of security, CPUs have for ages and M$ don´t add them. It's shame how we have to use driver API and install softwares as drivers when we need special access and anti-tampering. The result is bloated softwares that run on kernel mode, break lots of stuff, allow their owners to see everything we do and open backdoors to be exploited by hackers.

One of the layers would be for a software to monitor another software, and only that. It could see everything that happens on the target software and be blind to everything else.
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