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Taru~ 11 月 6 日 下午 1:36
These forums desperately need updated moderation practices
The prevalence of bait and AI reposting is turning the entirety of steam discussion forums into a sludge pit. I propose that these forums, particularly the game-specific forums, could benefit immensely from a new and focused approach to moderation that seeks to oppose this behavior.

Lack of genuine posts and the prevalence of posts that manipulate good faith have drastically reduced the quality of interactions across the entirety of these forums.
Action needs to be taken more swiftly against
- Unproductive, unclear, baiting or misleading posts
- Repetitive posts seeking to rehash long exhausted topics covered in existing posts
- Posts that are obviously disingenuous and trying to start arguments IE "Why do people hate this game so much?"
- Posts that are purposely inflammatory with the goal of drawing negative attention

The need should be obvious at this point. I will likely get clowned into the ground for suggesting any line of decency should exist, but it needs to be said. This forum is quickly becoming a place where decent communication just isn't possible. It's overflowing with obvious garbage we don't discard immediately, and why? Because we're only 99% sure it is?
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Mr. Smiles 11 月 6 日 下午 1:44 
I mean, welcome to the future. Eventually it will be ai posts baiting other AI post to get moderated by an ai.
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Taru~ 11 月 6 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 Mr. Smiles：
I mean, welcome to the future. Eventually it will be ai posts baiting other AI post to get moderated by an ai.

Part of arriving at the future is adapting to what the new times bring, but if you want to get buried in slop without even complaining, it's your call.
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gwwak 11 月 6 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 Taru~：
The prevalence of bait and AI reposting is turning the entirety of steam discussion forums into a sludge pit. I propose that these forums, particularly the game-specific forums, could benefit immensely from a new and focused approach to moderation that seeks to oppose this behavior.

Lack of genuine posts and the prevalence of posts that manipulate good faith have drastically reduced the quality of interactions across the entirety of these forums.
Action needs to be taken more swiftly against
- Unproductive, unclear, baiting or misleading posts
- Repetitive posts seeking to rehash long exhausted topics covered in existing posts
- Posts that are obviously disingenuous and trying to start arguments IE "Why do people hate this game so much?"
- Posts that are purposely inflammatory with the goal of drawing negative attention

The need should be obvious at this point. I will likely get clowned into the ground for suggesting any line of decency should exist, but it needs to be said. This forum is quickly becoming a place where decent communication just isn't possible. It's overflowing with obvious garbage we don't discard immediately, and why? Because we're only 99% sure it is?

Anti sign. Just because you disagree with a post doesn't mean it should be deleted. Otherwise Steam will become Taru~'s personal echo chamber, and echo chambers are lame and need to be BUSTED WIDE OPEN!
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Pierce Dalton 11 月 6 日 下午 2:01 
引用自 Mr. Smiles：
I mean, welcome to the future. Eventually it will be ai posts baiting other AI post to get moderated by an ai.

At least they'll be smarter.
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Psymon² 11 月 6 日 下午 2:14 
引用自 Taru~：
The prevalence of bait and AI reposting is turning the entirety of steam discussion forums into a sludge pit. I propose that these forums, particularly the game-specific forums, could benefit immensely from a new and focused approach to moderation that seeks to oppose this behavior.

Lack of genuine posts and the prevalence of posts that manipulate good faith have drastically reduced the quality of interactions across the entirety of these forums.
Action needs to be taken more swiftly against
- Unproductive, unclear, baiting or misleading posts
- Repetitive posts seeking to rehash long exhausted topics covered in existing posts
- Posts that are obviously disingenuous and trying to start arguments IE "Why do people hate this game so much?"
- Posts that are purposely inflammatory with the goal of drawing negative attention

The need should be obvious at this point. I will likely get clowned into the ground for suggesting any line of decency should exist, but it needs to be said. This forum is quickly becoming a place where decent communication just isn't possible. It's overflowing with obvious garbage we don't discard immediately, and why? Because we're only 99% sure it is?
accurate assessment.

unfortunately, valve don't care... at all...
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Glizzy McGuire 11 月 6 日 下午 3:19 
引用自 Taru~：
The prevalence of bait and AI reposting is turning the entirety of steam discussion forums into a sludge pit. I propose that these forums, particularly the game-specific forums, could benefit immensely from a new and focused approach to moderation that seeks to oppose this behavior.

Lack of genuine posts and the prevalence of posts that manipulate good faith have drastically reduced the quality of interactions across the entirety of these forums.
Action needs to be taken more swiftly against
- Unproductive, unclear, baiting or misleading posts
- Repetitive posts seeking to rehash long exhausted topics covered in existing posts
- Posts that are obviously disingenuous and trying to start arguments IE "Why do people hate this game so much?"
- Posts that are purposely inflammatory with the goal of drawing negative attention

The need should be obvious at this point. I will likely get clowned into the ground for suggesting any line of decency should exist, but it needs to be said. This forum is quickly becoming a place where decent communication just isn't possible. It's overflowing with obvious garbage we don't discard immediately, and why? Because we're only 99% sure it is?

I agree however Valve would not care. This would put trolls out of business if Valve did that.

"Unproductive, unclear, baiting or misleading posts"

Often used by trolls to derail the threads. Personal attacks goes under "unproductive". Valve knows exactly who are the trolls. They don't get moderated.
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matt 11 月 6 日 下午 3:36 
Sometimes the moderators seem to disagree with me about what constitutes baiting, but the overt stuff seems to get locked/deleted with some frequency. It's usually just the borderline stuff that sticks around.
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FOXDUDE69 11 月 6 日 下午 3:52 
Oh, another thread of the same type by a different user.

It's almost like everyone clearly sees what's going despite the regulars' transparent gaslight attempts.
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76561198407601200 11 月 6 日 下午 3:52 
引用自 Taru~：
引用自 Mr. Smiles：
I mean, welcome to the future. Eventually it will be ai posts baiting other AI post to get moderated by an ai.

Part of arriving at the future is adapting to what the new times bring, but if you want to get buried in slop without even complaining, it's your call.
Prior to AI we had to generally do most of our thinking. Prior that we were told things would go down hill due to computers "Kids will be lazy" which here we are now where the highlight complain is the quality of forum posts online. Challenging times we live in..
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SirSeanicus 11 月 6 日 下午 3:54 
They never will. Removing beneficial rules and outsourcing moderation has been a disaster and it shows. We keep having these threads repeat because of the weak and incompetent moderators refusing to actually do their jobs and people are getting fed up of their failures.
最后由 SirSeanicus 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 3:56
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Crazy Tiger 11 月 6 日 下午 3:59 
引用自 Taru~：
引用自 Mr. Smiles：
I mean, welcome to the future. Eventually it will be ai posts baiting other AI post to get moderated by an ai.

Part of arriving at the future is adapting to what the new times bring, but if you want to get buried in slop without even complaining, it's your call.
We've been buried by troll slop on these forums for longer than people been using chatgpt and ai.
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76561199540158642 11 月 6 日 下午 4:15 
you know the term troll originated from the word Controller as someone who can control the opinion of the direction in which the conversation is going.

Typically anyone who is not following Steams narrative is considered a troll.

Anyone who watchs Steam forcing its own narrative on users across the forum, perceive steam moderation as the trolls
#12
パエトーン (Belle) 11 月 6 日 下午 4:28 
The solution is government ID and facescans to create a Steam account.
Half the reason all these spam post and scammers exist is because they can evade ban with new accounts indefinitely.
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datCookie 11 月 6 日 下午 4:32 
引用自 Golden Unicorn：
you know the term troll originated from the word Controller as someone who can control the opinion of the direction in which the conversation is going.

Typically anyone who is not following Steams narrative is considered a troll.

Anyone who watchs Steam forcing its own narrative on users across the forum, perceive steam moderation as the trolls

So what's Steam's narrative then? And what proof do you have that they have said narrative?
最后由 datCookie 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 4:32
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rawWwRrr 11 月 6 日 下午 4:37 
引用自 Golden Unicorn：
you know the term troll originated from the word Controller as someone who can control the opinion of the direction in which the conversation is going.
Citation needed.
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