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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:22
Physical cartridge game releases!
With all of the new Steam Hardware having MicroSD card slots on them for loading games on, could we possibly see support for physical game releases at the very least for special editions of games?

With the use of a cartridge to read the games off of you can save your space for other games! It works out for Valve because they'll still take a cut from the licensing to allow publishers to produce their own cartridges.

The functionality would work similar to how it works for Nintendo consoles.

They can just license out the ability on the individual games to be able to be read independently from an SD card slot and then it creates an image on the MicroSD card that will be treated as a game cartridge. This would prevent it from needing to be connected to Steam for DRM verification and prevents the game from being copied.

If this works, it could also be extended over to every gaming PC through the use of microSD card readers. Maybe the future of PC cases can even have these built-in for that purpose!

The sky's the limit with this idea and it can help to truly make the new hardware console competitors. (Knowing, of course, that being consoles isn't Valve's goal)
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Tito Shivan 11 月 13 日 下午 12:32 
Last thing i'd like to do is swap cards every time I want to play a game.
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Supafly 11 月 13 日 下午 12:35 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
Last thing i'd like to do is swap cards every time I want to play a game.
+1 Having multiple a single larger card I'd put up with but not 1 game per card.
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Crashed 11 月 13 日 下午 12:39 
The Micro SD form factor isn't really meant for frequent insertions and removals like a Nintendo Game Card is.
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 Tito Shivan：
Last thing i'd like to do is swap cards every time I want to play a game.
That's the best part. It's just another option. You might not want to use it and aren't forced to. Likely they would be sold with a markup to cover production. I've seen sentiment from console gamers not wanting to give up their consoles because they still want the ability to have physical games, this is for them.

This would never and should never be the only option for buying a game for Steam, only an option for those who want it. This wouldn't affect you otherwise.
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 Supafly：
引用自 Tito Shivan：
Last thing i'd like to do is swap cards every time I want to play a game.
+1 Having multiple a single larger card I'd put up with but not 1 game per card.
It's the same drawback as any physical game release. It's not there for convenience; it's there so gamers who want a physical copy can have one.
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 Crashed：
The Micro SD form factor isn't really meant for frequent insertions and removals like a Nintendo Game Card is.
Good point, but it could be one day if the idea gets considered at all.
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nullable 11 月 13 日 下午 12:46 
引用自 churuz_fyi：
引用自 Crashed：
The Micro SD form factor isn't really meant for frequent insertions and removals like a Nintendo Game Card is.
Good point, but it could be one day if the idea gets considered at all.

Physical media is fairly redundant, so don't hold your breath. And most of your idea is negated simply because Internet access is so wide spread that the rare moments where someone might not have any access are few enough that it's not a problem Valve is going to need to solve.

PC gamers haven't been clamoring for physical media. Of course some minority may, the same people who think Windows XP should live forever. But just like we don't have perpetual XP support, you're kidding yourself if you think Valve is eagerly going to take up managing an inventory of physical media for tens of thousands of games.

But hey, nothing is stopping you from cramming your games onto SD cards if that's what you want to do. Just don't kid yourself into thinking anything close to a large minority is wishing for that.
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 11 月 13 日 下午 12:51
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tyl0413 11 月 13 日 下午 12:50 
Some people have been printing labels for their Deck SDcards on YT, I'm not personally the biggest fan of flash in general as far as long term reliability goes so not sure I'd enjoy having my games locked to an SDcard but that aside I think this is a really cool idea.
Idk if enough people would be willing to wait for shipping and Valve would certainly not want to share revenue with retailers but it would be a cool idea for the few of us who value this sort of thing.

GOG would be more likely to embrace such an idea since a lot more of that audience would be interested in physical copies and their games are all DRM-free.
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nullable 11 月 13 日 下午 12:52 
引用自 tyl0413：

GOG would be more likely to embrace such an idea since a lot more of that audience would be interested in physical copies and their games are all DRM-free.

From what data set did you get that conclusion from? Either that GoG wants to manage a huge inventory of physical media. or that GoG users in general want physical media?
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 11 月 13 日 下午 12:53
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:55 
引用自 nullable：
引用自 churuz_fyi：
Good point, but it could be one day if the idea gets considered at all.

Physical media is fairly redundant, so don't hold your breath. And most of your idea is negated simply because Internet access is so wide spread that the rare moments where someone might not have any access are few enough that it's not a problem Valve is going to need to solve.
True, it's much faster and convenient to have digital games, except I'm not raising it because of an access concern. I'm helping to raise awareness for the voice of those who want physical media either for collection, security, or the ability to resell games.

The first is the one I identify with. I feel more pride from my few physical games than I do looking at my Steam backlog with tons of games, so I can personally understand that sentiment.

The second is for preservation. Steam won't always exist, and this would ensure that PC games aren't simply lost to time if possible like many have.

The last adds accessibility for gamers who want access to a game that has since been delisted. Think of Spec Ops: The Line and Forza Horizon 4, both delisted because of music licensing. Had those been released as "Physical Steam Games" they would still be accessible to new players who didn't get the opportunity to buy them digitally and still want to play them without needing to resort to piracy or moving to a different platform just for it.
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 nullable：
引用自 tyl0413：

GOG would be more likely to embrace such an idea since a lot more of that audience would be interested in physical copies and their games are all DRM-free.

From what data set did you get that conclusion from? Either that GoG wants to manage a huge inventory of physical media. or that GoG users in general want physical media?
GOG and its users are very open about game preservation. GOG offers every game release with the full copy of the game with no DRM checks for that reason and it's a requirement in order to be in GOG. The gamers who prefer to buy through GOG due so for that reason because GOG isn't offering a lower price or a better online platform than Steam is at all.
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ChuRuz_fyi 11 月 13 日 下午 1:00 
引用自 tyl0413：
Some people have been printing labels for their Deck SDcards on YT, I'm not personally the biggest fan of flash in general as far as long term reliability goes so not sure I'd enjoy having my games locked to an SDcard but that aside I think this is a really cool idea.
Idk if enough people would be willing to wait for shipping and Valve would certainly not want to share revenue with retailers but it would be a cool idea for the few of us who value this sort of thing.

GOG would be more likely to embrace such an idea since a lot more of that audience would be interested in physical copies and their games are all DRM-free.
Very true. Reliability is a big concern but also disc rot exists. Ultimately, no physical media is truly forever, *however* flash media only has limited write cycles, not reads so it is technically more resilient than discs, but all media can fail ultimately.

As for access on release, I'm picturing more being able to access these physical releases in stores. Like imagine lining up at game stores again to get a physical special edition copy of a PC game!
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tyl0413 11 月 13 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 churuz_fyi：
引用自 nullable：

From what data set did you get that conclusion from? Either that GoG wants to manage a huge inventory of physical media. or that GoG users in general want physical media?
GOG and its users are very open about game preservation. GOG offers every game release with the full copy of the game with no DRM checks for that reason and it's a requirement in order to be in GOG. The gamers who prefer to buy through GOG due so for that reason because GOG isn't offering a lower price or a better online platform than Steam is at all.
GOG users like ownership and old games, and automatically with that physical games. GOG could easily do this, Ik it'd be a bit unusable maybe to sell games for the competitors hardware (not really since its all just PC, and all PCs can have an SD reader) but its like all the exclusivity bs is dead finally anyways so why not, its not like they're doing any better by only officially supporting Windows and Mac who both want to eliminate 3rd party stores outright.
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Vaulty 11 月 13 日 下午 1:01 
Yes and then devs will put Steam code on the card, so you plop it in, open steam and boom, game is on your account, after that the card is useless.
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tyl0413 11 月 13 日 下午 1:06 
引用自 churuz_fyi：
引用自 tyl0413：
Some people have been printing labels for their Deck SDcards on YT, I'm not personally the biggest fan of flash in general as far as long term reliability goes so not sure I'd enjoy having my games locked to an SDcard but that aside I think this is a really cool idea.
Idk if enough people would be willing to wait for shipping and Valve would certainly not want to share revenue with retailers but it would be a cool idea for the few of us who value this sort of thing.

GOG would be more likely to embrace such an idea since a lot more of that audience would be interested in physical copies and their games are all DRM-free.
Very true. Reliability is a big concern but also disc rot exists. Ultimately, no physical media is truly forever, *however* flash media only has limited write cycles, not reads so it is technically more resilient than discs, but all media can fail ultimately.

As for access on release, I'm picturing more being able to access these physical releases in stores. Like imagine lining up at game stores again to get a physical special edition copy of a PC game!
Discs stood the test of time pretty well, most flash media failed it miserably, especially the ones that got heavy use. I suspect we'll see mass death of Switch cartridges way before any remotely recent disc system, already happening with DS cards I think.
Online is not forever either, quite the opposite infact with insane current internet censorship laws going through, point is, I would not buy a DRMed SDcard game just as much as I wouldn't buy an uncrackable DRMed download game. If this was done it'd have to be done by GOG.
Yeah I mean I wish but I don't think physical media is gonna be much of a thing again sadly, not even really in a limited capacity.
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