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Ankh 6. sep. kl. 12:18
Hide games that rely on Kernel level bloatware
The store needs a persistent filter to hide games that require Kernel-level appendages to be installed (e.g. Denuvo). I don't want this kind of attack vector to be opened up on my computer. The store already tags it.
If the game requires it, fair enough. I just don't want to buy it.

Similar filters would be appreciated for games tagged to require agreement to certain third party EULAs, or to install third party loaders (e.g. Origin).
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MONSTERDROID 6. sep. kl. 12:53 
I need these filter options, I hate denuvo & third party launchers.
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Moonbreaker 6. sep. kl. 13:00 
100%. I just don't care to see those anymore.
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Crashed 6. sep. kl. 13:01 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ankh:
The store needs a persistent filter to hide games that require Kernel-level appendages to be installed (e.g. Denuvo). I don't want this kind of attack vector to be opened up on my computer. The store already tags it.
If the game requires it, fair enough. I just don't want to buy it.

Similar filters would be appreciated for games tagged to require agreement to certain third party EULAs, or to install third party loaders (e.g. Origin).
Denuvo (the DRM) isn't kernel level and does not require any installations. Please do not spread misinformation.
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Hikari Light 6. sep. kl. 14:49 
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
Sidst redigeret af Hikari Light; 6. sep. kl. 14:50
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Crashed 6. sep. kl. 15:29 
Oprindeligt skrevet af HikariLight:
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
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William Shakesman 6. sep. kl. 15:39 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crashed:
Oprindeligt skrevet af HikariLight:
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
If the recent naughty behavior of payment providers didn't result in such proceedings, it is highly unlikely it would result in such for Valve if they made such a choice.
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Crashed 6. sep. kl. 16:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af William Shakesman:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crashed:
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
If the recent naughty behavior of payment providers didn't result in such proceedings, it is highly unlikely it would result in such for Valve if they made such a choice.
Are launchers likely to be considered obscene under the Miller test?
Of course this has gone way past the subject of the thread which was OP's concern about games shipping with kernel-mode components while citing components that are not kernel-mode.
Sidst redigeret af Crashed; 6. sep. kl. 16:11
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reaper99999 28. nov. kl. 12:31 
if I'm understanding OP correctly, steam wouldn't need the devs to do anything more than they already are, just add a way for us to filter them out like other tags
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RPG Gamer Man 28. nov. kl. 12:33 
Why does op think Denuvo is a kernel level thing? I don't know much about Denuvo myself, but even i know it is not. It is more like a server that checks if your games are not pirated.
Sidst redigeret af RPG Gamer Man; 28. nov. kl. 12:34
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Crashed 28. nov. kl. 12:50 
Oprindeligt skrevet af RPG Gamer Man:
Why does op think Denuvo is a kernel level thing? I don't know much about Denuvo myself, but even i know it is not. It is more like a server that checks if your games are not pirated.
It's because misinformation trends heavily on social media.
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