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Major Matilda Sky 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 12:52
Add swedish SEK
Hey!

After i buy something in steam store, I notice why we swedish players have euro instead of SEK.
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

I love to see that we swedish players have SEK instead of Euro since it cost extra in fees!

Valve we swedish wants SEK and not Euro!
最后由 Major Matilda Sky 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 4:27
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Seretti 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 1:02 
The search would have helped you find similar topics, but let me quote a relevant answer:

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
Old but still relevant info about this topic...

Valve talks about adding currencies and other payment options here. Some where after 35:00. They just use Russia as the example...

https://youtu.be/wrvr02SiHY4

~5:42

https://youtu.be/g2rT0Ji3BWI

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing/currencies

When/if it gets added, remember that prices are set by the devs/pubs and if no price is set, you'll be unable to purchase the title until they do.

:qr:
Nx Machina 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 1:13 
引用自 Total EDM
Hey!

After i buy something in steam store, I notice why we swedish players have euro instead of SEK.
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

I love to see that we swedish players have SEK instead of Euro since it cost extra in fees!

Valve we swedish wants SEK and not Euro!

Those fees would be VAT which Valve is obligated to collect on behalf of the EU.

Leave the EU and you can pay in your local currency but you are a member state of the EU.
Major Matilda Sky 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 1:33 
引用自 Nx Machina
引用自 Total EDM
Hey!

After i buy something in steam store, I notice why we swedish players have euro instead of SEK.
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

I love to see that we swedish players have SEK instead of Euro since it cost extra in fees!

Valve we swedish wants SEK and not Euro!

Those fees would be VAT which Valve is obligated to collect on behalf of the EU.

Leave the EU and you can pay in your local currency but you are a member state of the EU.

No, I dont pay extra. Steam does not following the swedish law, We use SEK and not Euro.
Nx Machina 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 2:16 
引用自 Total EDM
No, I dont pay extra.

Did you not post?

引用自 Total EDM
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

Oh you did.


引用自 Total EDM
Steam does not following the swedish law, We use SEK and not Euro.

SEK is not a currency on Steam and so it defaults to EURO and Sweden is a member of the EU, in fact you joined back in 1995. No laws are been broken but feel free to consult a lawyer.
Falsus Te Deum 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 2:26 
There is no Swedish laws to forbidd a digital platform to use Euro and not SEK. Never has been, and probably never will.
If you do not wish to pay in EURO, use a digital game shop that does use SEK. No on forces you to be here.
Major Matilda Sky 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 3:16 
引用自 Falsus Te Deum
There is no Swedish laws to forbidd a digital platform to use Euro and not SEK. Never has been, and probably never will.
If you do not wish to pay in EURO, use a digital game shop that does use SEK. No on forces you to be here.


引用自 Nx Machina
引用自 Total EDM
No, I dont pay extra.

Did you not post?

引用自 Total EDM
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

Oh you did.


引用自 Total EDM
Steam does not following the swedish law, We use SEK and not Euro.

SEK is not a currency on Steam and so it defaults to EURO and Sweden is a member of the EU, in fact you joined back in 1995. No laws are been broken but feel free to consult a lawyer.

No trash comments please!
Falsus Te Deum 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 3:22 
YOU claim Swedish laws being broken, please enlighten us and link to the Swedish laws that are being broken. YOU make claims, prove them.

You are fully free to WISH and suggest something, but do not claim things you cannot prove.

Edit:
And you Really should read up on this:

"Pris på varor och tjänster ska anges klart och tydligt. Om skatter och fraktkostnader tillkommer ska det anges särskilt."
Nowhere does it state that it MUST be in SEK. Here is a link for you to read.
https://www.verksamt.se/starta/vad-galler-i-din-bransch/e-handel/lagar-och-regler
最后由 Falsus Te Deum 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 3:34
Darth Jalapeno 2021 年 4 月 6 日 上午 11:39 
SEK +4!
Major Matilda Sky 11 月 27 日 下午 11:12 
引用自 Nx Machina
引用自 Total EDM
Hey!

After i buy something in steam store, I notice why we swedish players have euro instead of SEK.
Every time we pay something it always 20 SEK extra for fees.

I love to see that we swedish players have SEK instead of Euro since it cost extra in fees!

Valve we swedish wants SEK and not Euro!

Those fees would be VAT which Valve is obligated to collect on behalf of the EU.

Leave the EU and you can pay in your local currency but you are a member state of the EU.

On steam swedish vat of 25% tax are applied and not the eu one, THIS IS SWEDEN WITH SWEDISH LAWS AND RULES, This is not EU.

This why i never buy things on steam anymore.. Xbox uses SEK,Playerstation uses SEK, Epic Games Uses SEK, Google use SEK, Microsoft Use SEK.

Steam no... failure
Major Matilda Sky 11 月 27 日 下午 11:15 
引用自 Seretti
The search would have helped you find similar topics, but let me quote a relevant answer:

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
Old but still relevant info about this topic...

Valve talks about adding currencies and other payment options here. Some where after 35:00. They just use Russia as the example...

https://youtu.be/wrvr02SiHY4

~5:42

https://youtu.be/g2rT0Ji3BWI

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing/currencies

When/if it gets added, remember that prices are set by the devs/pubs and if no price is set, you'll be unable to purchase the title until they do.

:qr:

But still wrong, SEK AND NOT EURO or anything included steam WILL USE 25% swedish tax, Law is a law.
Steam are in sweden so swedish tax does apply.
Ettanin 11 月 27 日 下午 11:24 
you want to know why?

Valve cannot go against EU law and get swedish nationals better prices while excluding other EU member citizens from the better offers, even if the SEK exchange rate was bound to the Euro.

As Sweden does not enforce SEK use for the sale of goods online (contrary to countries like Poland), Valve decided to use the Euro instead.

Using the Euro as pricing for swedish nationals is therefore the legally safest and easiest to maintain option.

The only exception is Poland, because Poland, by national law, requires payment in PLN if goods were sold in Poland, putting Valve into a catch-22 position because the payment system does not support multiple currencies for one Store region nor does it support real-time conversion of prices from EUR to PLN. And yes, only Polish people have access to PLN pricing (and in turn no access to EUR pricing) which is in violation of EU law.
最后由 Ettanin 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 下午 11:25
cinedine 11 月 28 日 上午 1:31 
引用自 Ettanin
you want to know why?

Valve cannot go against EU law and get swedish nationals better prices while excluding other EU member citizens from the better offers, even if the SEK exchange rate was bound to the Euro.

As Sweden does not enforce SEK use for the sale of goods online (contrary to countries like Poland), Valve decided to use the Euro instead.

Nothing to do with the EU or anything you said.

The additional fees are currency conversion fees by the bank of the customer, because the transaction is in Euro. So yeah, using Euro throughout Europe (btw, even in countries outside of the EU) is fault of Valve and to the dteriment of customers in these countries.
Ettanin 11 月 28 日 上午 1:36 
引用自 cinedine
引用自 Ettanin
you want to know why?

Valve cannot go against EU law and get swedish nationals better prices while excluding other EU member citizens from the better offers, even if the SEK exchange rate was bound to the Euro.

As Sweden does not enforce SEK use for the sale of goods online (contrary to countries like Poland), Valve decided to use the Euro instead.

Nothing to do with the EU or anything you said.

The additional fees are currency conversion fees by the bank of the customer, because the transaction is in Euro. So yeah, using Euro throughout Europe (btw, even in countries outside of the EU) is fault of Valve and to the dteriment of customers in these countries.
i only explained why Valve is forced to use the Euro not why the exchange fees exist. Those are of course a side effect.
The EU market laws do allow regional prices, yes, but those regional prices must be accessible by all EU citizens. Therefore, to avoid legal issues, Valve made the price within the EU the same in all member states because otherwise people will region hop to get games cheaper. Only Poland is an exception here due to national laws there.
最后由 Ettanin 编辑于; 11 月 28 日 上午 1:40
Artemida 11 月 28 日 上午 2:05 
引用自 Ettanin
you want to know why?

Valve cannot go against EU law and get swedish nationals better prices while excluding other EU member citizens from the better offers, even if the SEK exchange rate was bound to the Euro.

As Sweden does not enforce SEK use for the sale of goods online (contrary to countries like Poland), Valve decided to use the Euro instead.

Using the Euro as pricing for swedish nationals is therefore the legally safest and easiest to maintain option.

The only exception is Poland, because Poland, by national law, requires payment in PLN if goods were sold in Poland, putting Valve into a catch-22 position because the payment system does not support multiple currencies for one Store region nor does it support real-time conversion of prices from EUR to PLN. And yes, only Polish people have access to PLN pricing (and in turn no access to EUR pricing) which is in violation of EU law.

This is not true. Why are you making things up? Learn the difference between the European Union and the Eurozone.

Cite this law, please:
引用自 Ettanin
Poland, by national law, requires payment in PLN if goods were sold in Poland,
Yeah... such a law doesn't exist.
Zefar 11 月 28 日 上午 2:24 
引用自 Artemida

This is not true. Why are you making things up? Learn the difference between the European Union and the Eurozone.

Cite this law, please:

Valve had to have game companies change their prices in the EU countries that where poorer because it broke EU rules. There where a lot of people being angry about it some years ago and for good reasons.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/pricing-payments/index_en.htm

Price discrimination
As an EU national or resident you can't be charged a higher price when buying products or services in the EU just because of your nationality or country of residence.

When you buy goods online in the EU, prices may vary from country to country or across different versions of the same website, for example due to differences in delivery costs. However, if you buy goods online without cross-border delivery – such as when you buy something online which you intend to collect from a trader or shop yourself – you should have access to the same prices and special offers as buyers living in that EU country. You cannot be charged more or prevented from buying something just because you live in another country.

The same rules apply when you buy services provided at the trader's premises, for example when you buy entry tickets for an amusement park, book a hotel, rent a car, or when you buy electronically supplied services (such as cloud services or website hosting), you are entitled to have access to the same prices as local buyers.

That is EU law.
Steam did Geolocking prices to help the more poor countries but EU put a stop to that. Weirdly enough.

引用自 Artemida
引用自 Ettanin
Poland, by national law, requires payment in PLN if goods were sold in Poland,
Yeah... such a law doesn't exist.

https://poland-accounting.eu/2025/03/application-of-the-split-payment-mechanism-in-poland-extended-until-2028-what-does-this-mean-for-taxpayers/

It mentions some of the things the user brought up but because it's just an update to it, it doesn't have all of the information. But seeing how most of it is true he is certainly telling the truth.
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