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The only way to prevent users from screwing around with a system is preventing them from using it.
Three strikes policy? Great, you just barred 100k users from being "funny". Now on to the next 100k that just created their throw-away accounts or want to get in on the joke.
Having some moderation on the tags is probably for the best, I agree (to be clear, I have no idea to what extent this may already happen), but if there are punishments to be handed out, that should be done with discretion, rather than automatically triggered by any instance of Valve/devs finding something "incorrect".
Sorry, at the time of writing I was fed up of all the incorrect tags. The tag system just feels so rigid, I mean if I want a game like say monster racer what tag do I look under? It just feels like there's gotta be a better way to catergorize games that work for users and creators.
To tackle the different issues mentioned:
- about being funny: currently there's no way to ignore user-generated tags (see https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/17p18wn/how_hard_is_it_to_add_a_ignore_user_generated/), so the jokes unfortunately lead to actual issues with filtering and users need to be responsible for adding them. I'm not talking about an extra super long joke tag that nobody really uses, but tags actually used in other games that you may be either interested in (and disappointed when you see they're not true) or filtering out (and miss out on games you could have been interested in). They are actual games with Psychological Horror and there are actual games with Sexual Content, when everything gets messed up you cannot rely on tags anymore.
And if banning from a store is too strong for messing up with a specific feature like tag, an intermediate solution is to simply prevent the user from adding user tags, but they can still buy games, post on forums, etc.
- about throw-away accounts: that's actually a good point, maybe users should have a certain level of reputation before they start adding user tags that affect other users. Not everyone wants to talk on the forums, so the system could be self-contained: adding tags that prove to be correct (other users agree, and finally a human moderator too) gives reputation and at a certain point your contributions are taken into account immediately.
Other possible measures include requiring the user to purchase/redeem to game and play for a minimum duration, which would strongly reduce the impact of throw-away accounts, however, it would also prevent people who know the game well e.g. having played it on another platform from contributing to user tags.
This could be helped by allowing users with either enough reputation or who played the game for enough time to add user tags.
- about the problem with punishing users who honestly added an inexact tag like RPG: developers, or "tag moderators", could flag the user tags at different levels: approved, acceptable (not what developer would say as primary category, but understands why some players would think that and it could help others to find the game), incorrect (an honest mistake), abusive (a troll)
Only the "abusive" tags would lead to warning and punishment (kick, ban, or prevent adding more user tags).
Maybe I'll create a thread for each point later to discuss each suggestion more in depth. I'll already been reporting tag-related issues to Steam (including the terrible bug where reporting a bad tag makes it look like you added it yourself in your interface), but I may keep doing it... Sometimes it feels like you either go to Steam with a bunch of tags but many are not reliable, or you go to other stores with almost no meta information and you have to rely on a lot of luck to get the right recommendations.
Yes, the wrong tags garner displacement with normal age restricted 18+ content into PG filters, and for that matter, may also create fascism ideologies where even Angles shy away at the thought of a discrediting none existent tag about a genre where someone who reacts based on some moral grounds they are so fixated being life or death.
Out of respect for games. You're here to win right? lol
The most useful way of generating the proper tags is to own the game, and create in your own library a DYNAMIC collection for each game and as many dynamic collections with similar genre's.
You can add as many extra tags as you want to any Dynamic collection too. The cool thing about that is when you customize the collection, the Steam Store Tags reflect your personal tags in your library dynamic collections. So choose wisely.
I've had many games with incorrect tags, but because i personally made my collection with better tags for myself I fixed the wrong tags from showing up for everyone who played the same games.
Don't believe me? There's no consequence if you make good choices and trying something. It's just a tag. lol