Chat Control 2.0
In the EU it is almost certain that Chat Control 2.0 will be approved, a system by which all messaging applications such as WhatsApp, Signal, Gamil email, etc. will be approved. They will be obliged to monitor all the messages you write and receive before they are sent to their recipient,

To try to simplify:
- You write a message, send a photo, audio, etc.
- The application or mobile device will scan the message
- If it is not appropriate, all data will be sent to the EU
- The EU will send it to the police of your country who will investigate you and could sentence you to prison depending on the crime committed.

It really is crazy that it will almost certainly come true, but my question is this, will Steam implement Chat Control 2.0 if the EU passes the law?

Another thing, those who are outside the EU should prepare because if it is approved in the EU it will surely spread outside.
< >
正在显示第 1 - 13 条,共 13 条留言
On 26. November 2025, this got thrown over. That's the exact opposite of "almost certain", please don't lie.
最后由 ReBoot 编辑于; 7 小时以前
引用自 ReBoot
On 26. November 2025, this got thrown over. That's the exact opposite of "almost certain", please don't lie.
In November 2025, the revised text of Chat Control 2.0 was already approved in the EU Council (Coreper)

In December its vote will proceed, it does not mean that it is already approved, but it could be and has great possibilities of being so since Germany has changed its mind and is in favor
最后由 nano 编辑于; 6 小时以前
Based on previous actions I would be willing to bet they'd disable chat for EU users first.
引用自 nano
引用自 ReBoot
On 26. November 2025, this got thrown over. That's the exact opposite of "almost certain", please don't lie.
In November 2025, the revised text of Chat Control 2.0 was already approved in the EU Council (Coreper)

In December its vote will proceed, it does not mean that it is already approved, but it could be and has great possibilities of being so since Germany has changed its mind and is in favor
Yes. The revised text. The revised text states that there's no obligatory chat control.
最后由 ReBoot 编辑于; 5 小时以前
引用自 ReBoot
引用自 nano
In November 2025, the revised text of Chat Control 2.0 was already approved in the EU Council (Coreper)

In December its vote will proceed, it does not mean that it is already approved, but it could be and has great possibilities of being so since Germany has changed its mind and is in favor
Yes. The revised text. The revised text states that there's no obligatory chat control.
What you indicate is not the case, what it indicates is that they force private companies to implement all the necessary mechanisms for the detection of infractions, it also leaves the way free to add new conditions, that is, once the law is made, add things to it, modify it, etc. It's easier.
In addition, photos, videos, audio, even Spotify will be scanned to detect what music you listen to, it's not just chat, it's everything.

However, here we are not debating the content of the law, what we want to know is whether it is going to be implemented on Steam or not, so stop saying nonsense that you have no idea about.
引用自 nullable
Based on previous actions I would be willing to bet they'd disable chat for EU users first.

Initially I don't think they will do it, but of course, not detecting an infraction will result in a fine of 4% of the company's turnover, that is, for the private company, a false positive will be better than a false negative.

So initially we will continue to have WhatsApp, email, etc. but if a company is fined for not having detected a "sensitive" and banned case (I can't use certain words on steam), all the other companies with encrypted communications are sure to start leaving the EU out of fear.

It could be a big snowball that leaves us in a void and a single internet like North Korea or China.

However, I am curious about Steam, the messages are public in the forums, but not in friends' chats.
引用自 nano
引用自 ReBoot
Yes. The revised text. The revised text states that there's no obligatory chat control.
What you indicate is not the case, what it indicates is that they force private companies to implement all the necessary mechanisms for the detection of infractions, it also leaves the way free to add new conditions, that is, once the law is made, add things to it, modify it, etc. It's easier.
In addition, photos, videos, audio, even Spotify will be scanned to detect what music you listen to, it's not just chat, it's everything.

However, here we are not debating the content of the law, what we want to know is whether it is going to be implemented on Steam or not, so stop saying nonsense that you have no idea about.
Actually, we are debating the content because you're misrepresenting it. That part about "will be scanned to detect the music you listen to", for example, is a blatant lie.
引用自 ReBoot
引用自 nano
What you indicate is not the case, what it indicates is that they force private companies to implement all the necessary mechanisms for the detection of infractions, it also leaves the way free to add new conditions, that is, once the law is made, add things to it, modify it, etc. It's easier.
In addition, photos, videos, audio, even Spotify will be scanned to detect what music you listen to, it's not just chat, it's everything.

However, here we are not debating the content of the law, what we want to know is whether it is going to be implemented on Steam or not, so stop saying nonsense that you have no idea about.
Actually, we are debating the content because you're misrepresenting it. That part about "will be scanned to detect the music you listen to", for example, is a blatant lie.
Spotify plays music through encrypted communication, and the law says that ALL encrypted communication must be processed by an AI

For God's sake, stop talking nonsense man and focus, inform yourself, don't make a fool of yourself.
引用自 nano
引用自 ReBoot
Actually, we are debating the content because you're misrepresenting it. That part about "will be scanned to detect the music you listen to", for example, is a blatant lie.
Spotify plays music through encrypted communication, and the law says that ALL encrypted communication must be processed by an AI
You're lying. Rather blatantly, I might add.

For God's sake, stop talking nonsense man and focus, inform yourself, don't make a fool of yourself.
引用自 ReBoot
引用自 nano
Spotify plays music through encrypted communication, and the law says that ALL encrypted communication must be processed by an AI
You're lying. Rather blatantly, I might add.

For God's sake, stop talking nonsense man and focus, inform yourself, don't make a fool of yourself.
You are already without arguments and you resort to the classic thing of poor intellectuals, "you lie."

I think you have a problem that you should overcome outside of these forums. When you do, come back and we'll talk. For now, those of us who want to find out about whether Steam would implement the Chat Control 2.0 system will continue to see if someone sheds some light on the thread.
It's a shame that someone else has ruined an interesting thread, but hey, in January 2026 we will know what will happen with Chat Control 2.0
引用自 nano
引用自 nullable
Based on previous actions I would be willing to bet they'd disable chat for EU users first.

Initially I don't think they will do it, but of course, not detecting an infraction will result in a fine of 4% of the company's turnover, that is, for the private company, a false positive will be better than a false negative.

So initially we will continue to have WhatsApp, email, etc. but if a company is fined for not having detected a "sensitive" and banned case (I can't use certain words on steam), all the other companies with encrypted communications are sure to start leaving the EU out of fear.

It could be a big snowball that leaves us in a void and a single internet like North Korea or China.

However, I am curious about Steam, the messages are public in the forums, but not in friends' chats.

Uh huh, so your thinking is Valve will wait until they're fined? You can't imagine they'd be proactive? And given their willingness to participate in government age verification schemes you can't imagine they'd want to sidestep the issue?

Seems like a lack of imagination on your part.
引用自 nullable
引用自 nano

Initially I don't think they will do it, but of course, not detecting an infraction will result in a fine of 4% of the company's turnover, that is, for the private company, a false positive will be better than a false negative.

So initially we will continue to have WhatsApp, email, etc. but if a company is fined for not having detected a "sensitive" and banned case (I can't use certain words on steam), all the other companies with encrypted communications are sure to start leaving the EU out of fear.

It could be a big snowball that leaves us in a void and a single internet like North Korea or China.

However, I am curious about Steam, the messages are public in the forums, but not in friends' chats.

Uh huh, so your thinking is Valve will wait until they're fined? You can't imagine they'd be proactive? And given their willingness to participate in government age verification schemes you can't imagine they'd want to sidestep the issue?

Seems like a lack of imagination on your part.
I couldn't tell you what Valve would do, nor do I know what repercussions would happen if Valve said: "There will be no chats or forums on Steam within the EU"

The problem is that it goes further, for example, imagine that Chat Control 2.0 finally becomes mandatory throughout the EU and companies like Steam, WhatsApp, etc. are forced to implement it.

In principle, the scanning will be before the encryption of the message, that is, I write something, I want to send a photo, audio, etc. that resource will be passed through a local AI on my device and then sent as usual.

This implies that the implementation of Chat Control 2.0 will be within each application you use, and you will say: "Great, I'll get a VPN and download the application from another location." It would be great right? Well, not so much, you could do it, but if it is detected that you are using WhatsApp without Chat Control 2.0, WhatsApp would be fined.
Solution for WhatsApp? Implement Chat Control 2.0 in the application worldwide and activate it only if you are in the EU, but not by IP, but by SIM, Geolocation, etc.

The thing is that companies have a lot at stake by being able to be fined 4% of their turnover.
And I'm with you on that, will Steam take a chance?
< >
正在显示第 1 - 13 条,共 13 条留言
每页显示数: 1530 50