Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

I Get that devs want to exclusivise their games but forcing people to buy an unproven game is sales suicide, no option to request access in most cases which would be a great help for both gamers and devs but too many look for dollar signs rather than friendly interaction.

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

I Get that devs want to exclusivise their games but forcing people to buy an unproven game is sales suicide, no option to request access in most cases which would be a great help for both gamers and devs but too many look for dollar signs rather than friendly interaction.

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it. WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it. WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

Except once again people are 100% fine to wait it out to see if the game gets released in a spot they would enjoy.

It has never been easier then before with sites such as twitch or youtube to see how the game is before ever spending any money.

Early access helps fund games that in many cases would never have happened and it falls on the consumers to spend their money wisely.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it. WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

Most games don't have a demo. So you have to buy the game before knowing whether you like it or not.
That has nothing to do with Early Access games.

Nguyên văn bởi Kyrus86:

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

they are if they want to try it. WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

Most games don't have a demo. So you have to buy the game before knowing whether you like it or not.
That has nothing to do with Early Access games.

This. I have my problems with Early Access, but this isn’t one of them. For most EA titles you can find info online as to what they play like as someone else already stated. Or you can at least find reviews on Steam. If you can’t find any information about the game: DON’T BUY IT until you can find information about it. That goes for non-EA games as well, though.

Not to mention, some pretty huge successes started out in EA: Baldur’s Gate 3, Darkest Dungeon, Divinity: Original Sin 1 & 2, Hades & Hades II, Subnautica, Slay the Spire, Rimworld, etc.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it.

Having to make a decision is not being forced to do something.

Lots of games I might want to try... when they're released out of Early Access AND the reviews are decent.

If someone wants to make a different decision, they're not being forced to.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

There's always going to be fools, it's not your job to manage them or save them. Also your opinion about other people's game decisions aren't objective fact.

Also aside from Mommy and Daddy, let's not forget the adult who makes more than poverty wages, and has the option of refunding a game too. Oversimplifying and making derogatory comments about people who make different decisions than you may not be the big brain argument you think it is.

This makes no sense. In this specific content how is an EAG any different than a "regular" game?

I really wish people would think for one minute before posting nonsensical bs.

Too many people buy into early access on the basis of blind promises when actually it's more of a concept to encourage people to support the development and to engage in providing feedback. I've lost count of how many times I have seen negative reviews saying that the game is buggy, isn't finished and not in a good state despite having years more development planned.

Early access is far more rare now than what it was and people are more clued up to what the concept entails compared to 10 years ago. The blue box on every product store page whereby a game is in this status should be understood and not overlooked.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it.

Yeah that's how purchasing works. YOu are purchasing the game.

2 hours to try and then refund. Also, check gameplay videos, previews and so on. There is a lot of info out there. I have many issues with EA, but being forced to buy isn't one of them.

So if there is such a massive gap in the market, start up your own company that gives away its work for free and get rich...somehow.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

Nguyên văn bởi StickyPawz:

No one is being *forced* to buy a game.

they are if they want to try it. WHICH IS MY POINT. only fools buy something they havent seen or not played, unless mommy or daddy buys it for them. Ultimately without a sampler they asking for failure

Even if you want to try it, you’re still not forced to. The video game industry has been doing just fine without a standard for demos. So not sure where you’re getting the “asking for failure” bit, nor why you’re attributing this issue as exclusive to Early Access games.

It just shows how difficult development is. You won't find many complaints about games that have been cancled before they even got announced or somehow ended up with a defunct developer team to never see the light. But then its the investors taking the financial hit and all of a sudden its all fine. Early Access just sheds more light on how things can go with your money on the line. Shift of perspective you could say.
Just look at games like EAs Command & Conquer: Generals 2. A lot of work went into it until testing showed weaknesses, then it got canceled. And that wasn't imagined investment.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

I Get that devs want to exclusivise their games but forcing people to buy an unproven game is sales suicide

I've never bought an EA game, and I'm pretty sure nobody is forcing *you* either.

Nguyên văn bởi akaka05:

I Get that devs want to exclusivise their games but forcing people to buy an unproven game is sales suicide, no option to request access in most cases which would be a great help for both gamers and devs but too many look for dollar signs rather than friendly interaction.

No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything.

Also, BIG BLUE warning box is on EVERY Early Access games store page.
It tells you that you are purchasing a unfinished game and the game may or may not get updated.

You are given a straight up warning that the game may never be finished.

If you still buy it and get upset that the game doesn't get finished, that is a YOU problem.