Zanuda 11 月 29 日 上午 2:19
Is the number of ignored games limited or is the ignore function broken?
Recently (for about a month, afair) I keep seeing all the items that I have previously "ignored" in my queue and in the store, is there something wrong with the "ignore" function now?
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ReamedBySteem 11 月 29 日 下午 8:25 
this sounds like a pebkac error, although I can confirm ignored items still show up on the new releases page, and often in 'sale events'.
Zanuda 11 月 29 日 下午 10:01 
That's genius, thanks! :-D In some sense I'm definitely the source of the problem when I'm trying to "ignore" the same item 3-4 times in a row :-D
CJM 11 月 29 日 下午 10:57 
引用自 Zanuda
That's genius, thanks! :-D In some sense I'm definitely the source of the problem when I'm trying to "ignore" the same item 3-4 times in a row :-D
I think the ignore function should be universal.

There are now multiple queues, not just the "Discovery" queue. It could be that a different queue was already generated before the ignore feature was checked.

As far as the Store goes, I'm not sure whether the ignore feature actively hides a game throughout the entire store.
Combine Loyalist 11 月 29 日 下午 11:45 
引用自 ReamedBySteem
this sounds like a pebkac error, although I can confirm ignored items still show up on the new releases page, and often in 'sale events'.
pubkek yes
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.
ReamedBySteem 11 月 30 日 上午 12:05 
引用自 The nameless Gamer
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.


It's tags that are the problem, not the buttion (well except on the new releases page). User,

generated,

tags.
I'm talking specifically about the "new releases" and similar pages, so I'm not sure that the tags have something to do with the problem.
引用自 The nameless Gamer
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.

When you've told Steam that you don't like anything and then you ask Steam to show you something you might like, it does what is scientifically called "its best".
引用自 Ben Lubar
引用自 The nameless Gamer
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.

When you've told Steam that you don't like anything and then you ask Steam to show you something you might like, it does what is scientifically called "its best".

Pretty much that. I've stopped using that function years ago. Wishlist is longer than ever.
引用自 The nameless Gamer
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.
Annd if you keep ignoring past that the system just goes haywire and starts showing random crap because it can discern no pattern to your likes or dislikes.

Ideally. your ignore list should be quite small. No more than 50 items.
引用自 Start_Running
引用自 The nameless Gamer
I found the "Ignore" function to be counter-productive. Ignore enough games and Steam starts recommending you awful games, because the recommendation algorithm works based off tags. All tags added to a game.
Ignore enough strategy games: you stop seeing games like Age of Empires, Supreme Commander, Civilization and Total War.
Ignore enough metroidvania games and games like Hollow Knight, Bloodstained - ritual of the night, Ender Lilies and Axiom Verge vanish from your recommendation feed.

Ignore enough tags and the algorithm starts throwing random recommendations from the bottom of the barrel which have barely any tags.
Annd if you keep ignoring past that the system just goes haywire and starts showing random crap because it can discern no pattern to your likes or dislikes.

Ideally. your ignore list should be quite small. No more than 50 items.

Depends on how you like to browse different sections of Steam. I don't rely on tags and I don't want to see any crap items anywhere.
引用自 Zanuda
引用自 Start_Running
Annd if you keep ignoring past that the system just goes haywire and starts showing random crap because it can discern no pattern to your likes or dislikes.

Ideally. your ignore list should be quite small. No more than 50 items.

Depends on how you like to browse different sections of Steam. I don't rely on tags and I don't want to see any crap items anywhere.

What do you want to rely on? Can you suggest a metric by which a system would reliably recommend you games on?
Hard to tell. Personally I've run out of tags to ignore long ago, but those are mostly related to multiplayer games I hate to see.
I also have few trash entries I hate - like BG3 for example - individually set to ignore, so they'll stop being marketed to me so obnoxiously.
I'd say now it shows nothing annoying now, but also nothing that interesting anymore. Double-edged sword of sorts.
引用自 The nameless Gamer
引用自 Zanuda

Depends on how you like to browse different sections of Steam. I don't rely on tags and I don't want to see any crap items anywhere.

What do you want to rely on? Can you suggest a metric by which a system would reliably recommend you games on?

If you want Steam to recommend games relying on tags or whatever - that's your choice, which I wholeheartedly respect. I do believe though, that there are no "wrong" ways of browsing Steam, and that there are also hundreds of information sources about games, alternative to Steam. To each his own.

To make myself clear - when I've started this thread I didn't ask for advice on how to use Steam recommendations, I've asked specifically if anyone had any problems with the "ignore" function lately.
最后由 Zanuda 编辑于; 10 小时以前
引用自 Zanuda
引用自 The nameless Gamer

What do you want to rely on? Can you suggest a metric by which a system would reliably recommend you games on?

If you want Steam to recommend games relying on tags or whatever - that's your choice, which I wholeheartedly respect. I do believe though, that there are no "wrong" ways of browsing Steam, and that there are also hundreds of information sources about games, alternative to Steam. To each his own.

To make myself clear - when I've started this thread I didn't ask for advice on how to use Steam recommendations, I've asked specifically if anyone had any problems with the "ignore" function lately.

Fair enough. I was just curious, nothing else.
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