It's weaker than a lot of existing mini PCs on the market, and if the pricing does not match that well... interesting might be reserved less for the product itself and more for their product decisions.

Then again, there are people who will buy anything Valve pumps out, even if its a bad value proposition.

引用自 DasWulf：

It's weaker than a lot of existing mini PCs on the market, and if the pricing does not match that well... interesting might be reserved less for the product itself and more for their product decisions.

yea, there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

引用自 space：

there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

One of the biggest reasons last time is we didn't have Proton, and games had to be Linux native to work. Now, Proton enables 90% or more of the entire Steam catalogue to work on Linux, and growing.

Still, it will absolutely come down to price.

引用自 space：

引用自 DasWulf：

It's weaker than a lot of existing mini PCs on the market, and if the pricing does not match that well... interesting might be reserved less for the product itself and more for their product decisions.

yea, there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

of they can get this to 450 it will be insane value, if not then it is DOA.

引用自 SalvadorSIX7：

引用自 space：

yea, there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

of they can get this to 450 it will be insane value, if not then it is DOA.

It won't be $450.

引用自 space：

引用自 DasWulf：

It's weaker than a lot of existing mini PCs on the market, and if the pricing does not match that well... interesting might be reserved less for the product itself and more for their product decisions.

yea, there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

There was no marketing or consistency with the previous Steam Machines.

This one is already different.

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

引用自 SalvadorSIX7：

of they can get this to 450 it will be insane value, if not then it is DOA.

It won't be $450.

Then it's DOA you can get a better system for less.

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

There was no marketing or consistency with the previous Steam Machines.

This one is already different.

it's no different until it's out in the market and time goes by

引用自 SalvadorSIX7：

of they can get this to 450 it will be insane value, if not then it is DOA.

it will be like $1000

引用自 space：

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

There was no marketing or consistency with the previous Steam Machines.

This one is already different.

it's no different until it's out in the market and time goes by

引用自 SalvadorSIX7：

of they can get this to 450 it will be insane value, if not then it is DOA.

it will be like $1000

if its 1000 I can spend 500 more and get a Bosgame M5 which already works on Steam OS and is far stronger than the dedicated GPU in the Steam Machine.

I'm not sold on the thing.

First off, I have a pc, so I don't need it. From what I can tell, they want it to fit alongside the PS5 and Xbox Series X in terms of performance, but the current console gen is 5 years old. It's highly unlikely it's going to entice anybody on those platforms to buy it now.

So who is it for?

Some people will say it brings pc gaming to your couch, but I don't think that is enough. It's not in the same position as the Steam Deck was. PC gaming in your hands to take around anywhere at an affordable price? that didn't exist before the Steam Deck. Couch gaming has been around since the very first console. On the Gamers Nexus video, they said they want to price it at entry level pc prices. If it's entry level pricing, then it's going to need to be around the lower end of entry level, something like $300-$400. Price it any higher and I think it's going to be tough sell.

引用自 Hermit：

I'm not sold on the thing.

First off, I have a pc, so I don't need it. From what I can tell, they want it to fit alongside the PS5 and Xbox Series X in terms of performance, but the current console gen is 5 years old. It's highly unlikely it's going to entice anybody on those platforms to buy it now.

So who is it for?

Some people will say it brings pc gaming to your couch, but I don't think that is enough. It's not in the same position as the Steam Deck was. PC gaming in your hands to take around anywhere at an affordable price? that didn't exist before the Steam Deck. Couch gaming has been around since the very first console. On the Gamers Nexus video, they said they want to price it at entry level pc prices. If it's entry level pricing, then it's going to need to be around the lower end of entry level, something like $300-$400. Price it any higher and I think it's going to be tough sell.

Same thoughts as mine you can already get refurb mini PCs for sub 500 it would be insane for them to sell it for anything above 500.

I got my MinisForum Neptune HX80G for roughly $800, plus shipping. The "Neptune" codeword likely references Sega's codename for the Dreamcast "Sega Cube" console.

I, regretfully, had to forego a pre-order of the Sonic X Shadow Generations game, with the Dreamcast skin for Sonic. No expectation that it would contribute to the 2nd hand resale value of the PC, given the non-transferability of Steam libraries. Lame,...

Still, I do own the original Steam Controller, and the Steam Link, and a Steam Deck. So I've got a few collectibles in the Steam hardware ecosystem. This Steam Machine console likely would raise the value of the Steam VR hardware. I wonder if it is worth the continued investment?

This will be the alternative to get into a new PC, in my case right now running AM4, I won't waste money on a new AM5 platform if this could be the path for entry level PC and upgrade from AM4.

引用自 리치실드：

This will be the alternative to get into a new PC, in my case right now running AM4, I won't waste money on a new AM5 platform if this could be the path for entry level PC and upgrade from AM4.

What's your budget.

引用自 space：

yea, there's a reason steam machines were discontinued last time, time will tell if this will be any different

There were lot of reasons why first Steam Machines failed. The technology was not ready for it, SteamOS was not ready, Proton was not ready (what I read, first version wasn't even ready when Steam machines started shipping and thus wasn't included by default) and it was both over priced and under powered.

SteamOS and Proton have come long way from those early days and availability of custom components have have increased by order of magnitude and their prices have come down so even enthusiastics can afford to make all sorts of custom builds.

We'll have to wait and see at what the prices and performance will be as there are ton of mini PC's it has to compete with. It does have advantage of discrete GPU with it's own VRAM where as most most mini PC's have integrated that share system memory with CPU. The mini PC's with discrete GPU are way overpriced and you can get better gaming laptop or desktop way cheaper.

Other things I'm curious about is how is the cooling and can it run games for long periods without throttling and can the memory be upgraded. Most mini PC's can be upgraded to 64 GB RAM (they usually come with 16-32 GB by default but there are also 64 GB options available).

I'll be surprised if Valve can squeeze the price under or near 500€/$ as at that price it would blow pretty much all mini PC's at same price range out of the water.