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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 7 日 下午 6:14
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new Steam shop performs horribly in Firefox(SOLVED)
***EDIT*** Seem to have fixed it. Game pages are now basically fixed at 120 FPS(I have 120 Hz refresh rate) even when scrolling fast, and using only about at most 17% TDP of my GPU. No need for filters or disabling certain elements either.

First, to check if hardware acceleration is enabled, type about:support in the address bar and Ctrl+F(find) the Compositing line under Graphics. If it mentions Software, then you are missing out on a lot of potential performance. To fix that:

Type about:config in the address bar. I checked several related settings, which ended up fixing the issue for me. Find the following settings and make sure they are set to the following values:
gfx.webrender.compositor = true
gfx.webrender.software = false
or
引用自 Arik De Frasia：
For me, setting "gfx.webrender.compositor.force-enabled" to true is what fixed it, as gfx.webrender.compositor was already set to true and gfx.webrender.software was set to false when I was encountering the problem.

Restart the browser after making the above changes. Then, to verify, go to about:support and Ctrl+F(find) the Compositing line again under Graphics. Make sure it says WebRender, and without Software being mentioned.

If for whatever reason the settings don't work for you, perhaps there is another setting(s) somewhat that is causing the issue(s).


***ORIGINAL POST***
Not sure when this change went live and if it changed for everyone at once but man oh man the Steam shop is EXTREMELY slow now. I'm using a high resolution and DPI but still, I did previously as well with the exact same settings. The old shop performed a LOT better than it does now. Right now it's basically unusable. Hardware acceleration(with 4080 SUPER, 10900K) turned on, so that's not it. What is going on here? It runs at 1-2 FPS now(measured). In other browsers is runs extremely poorly as well.

Also the new screenshot viewer sucks. Used to be able to click anywhere on the screenshot to go to the next one, now we need to click the small arrows.

From my testing it seems that despite hardware acceleration being turned on, the GPU doesn't seem to get utilised. At least for me it is idling. CPU usage does increase a bit but nowhere near enough to be a bottleneck.

Adding ublock filters only adds about 2 FPS or so.
最后由 White ⁧⁧Wolf 编辑于; 12 月 4 日 上午 11:22
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Dan5000 11 月 7 日 下午 10:10 
I see no difference and the general feedback I heared is that it runs even smoother than before. Somethings not quite right on your end.
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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 4:44 
引用自 Dan5000：
I see no difference and the general feedback I heared is that it runs even smoother than before. Somethings not quite right on your end.
I use 8k with 400% scaling, but the shop before the new update performed fine. Now it's a slideshow. Nothing changed other than the site itself.

Talking about in the browser(Firefox, in this case).
最后由 White ⁧⁧Wolf 编辑于; 11 月 8 日 上午 4:45
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Thermal Lance 11 月 8 日 上午 4:52 
I don't know man. I see zero difference whatsoever when it comes to the performance itself. That said I got a very old computer, so maybe it's something that only affect people that run stuff in crazy high resolution because banana.

I hope you find a solution to your issue.
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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 5:22 
引用自 Thermal Lance：
I don't know man. I see zero difference whatsoever when it comes to the performance itself. That said I got a very old computer, so maybe it's something that only affect people that run stuff in crazy high resolution because banana.

I hope you find a solution to your issue.
What about when you go to an actual product page(in your browser)? For example(right click copy link that into the browser):
https://psteamproxy.yuanyoumao.com/app/70/HalfLife/
For me it's an absolute slideshow, possibly due to the diffused transparency effects in the background but no idea really. Not sure if your old PC supports/displays all the effects however.

Actually I just tried it in 3 different browsers(including Opera GX which is usually EXTREMELY fast), and all perform like a slideshow. It's definitely something with the new site and possible lack of optimisation for higher resolutions and/or text scaling.

All other websites still function just fine as before.
最后由 White ⁧⁧Wolf 编辑于; 11 月 8 日 上午 5:28
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Ferox_Stormdragon 11 月 8 日 上午 5:27 
It has to be something on your pc, 1050TI 16GB Ram and an i5-4590 cpu, zero issues
#5
White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 5:28 
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon：
It has to be something on your pc, 1050TI 16GB Ram and an i5-4590 cpu, zero issues
Soemhow I doubt you are using 8k resolution with 400% scaling.
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Ferox_Stormdragon 11 月 8 日 上午 5:31 
引用自 White ⁧⁧Wolf：
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon：
It has to be something on your pc, 1050TI 16GB Ram and an i5-4590 cpu, zero issues
Soemhow I doubt you are using 8k resolution with 400% scaling.

no one uses 8k
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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 5:31 
I also just measured and scrolling around the screenshot section(top section of a game page, where the performance hit is by far the worst) it runs at 1-2 measured FPS.
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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 5:32 
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon：
no one uses 8k
Try to read, you might learn something. More trolling results in a block.
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Ferox_Stormdragon 11 月 8 日 上午 5:40 
引用自 White ⁧⁧Wolf：
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon：
no one uses 8k
Try to read, you might learn something. More trolling results in a block.

like i said no one uses 8k, lowering your resolution will get you better performance.
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Thermal Lance 11 月 8 日 上午 5:46 
引用自 White ⁧⁧Wolf：
引用自 Thermal Lance：
I don't know man. I see zero difference whatsoever when it comes to the performance itself. That said I got a very old computer, so maybe it's something that only affect people that run stuff in crazy high resolution because banana.

I hope you find a solution to your issue.
What about when you go to an actual product page(in your browser)? For example(right click copy link that into the browser):
https://psteamproxy.yuanyoumao.com/app/70/HalfLife/
For me it's an absolute slideshow, possibly due to the diffused transparency effects in the background but no idea really. Not sure if your old PC supports/displays all the effects however.

Actually I just tried it in 3 different browsers(including Opera GX which is usually EXTREMELY fast), and all perform like a slideshow. It's definitely something with the new site and possible lack of optimisation for higher resolutions and/or text scaling.

All other websites still function just fine as before.
I just tried it. Works fine on my end.

I'm going to ask the obvious question thought. Why not simply tuning down the resolution? We're speaking of desktop apps here. Unless you rock a 70 inch TV I doubt you see much difference between 8k and 4k.

Big numbers for the sake of big numbers don't always lead to positive improvements.

Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not trying to "troll" or whatever. I'm just legitimately curious as to why anyone would need such a crazy high resolution for their desktop.
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Mad Scientist 11 月 8 日 上午 5:58 
So, what's the gpu set to for Power Management mode? Sounds like it's staying completely idle.
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White ⁧⁧Wolf 11 月 8 日 上午 6:31 
引用自 Thermal Lance：
I just tried it. Works fine on my end.

I'm going to ask the obvious question thought. Why not simply tuning down the resolution? We're speaking of desktop apps here. Unless you rock a 70 inch TV I doubt you see much difference between 8k and 4k.

Big numbers for the sake of big numbers don't always lead to positive improvements.

Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not trying to "troll" or whatever. I'm just legitimately curious as to why anyone would need such a crazy high resolution for their desktop.
It does make a visual difference to me + I use that resolution for gaming and media so I'm not going to switch back and forth constantly. That's not even the issue though, as websites generally perform just fine(including Steam shop before their 'update'). Now it's unusable. So there's something seriously wrong with the website it seems.

引用自 Mad Scientist：
So, what's the gpu set to for Power Management mode? Sounds like it's staying completely idle.
Browsers don't seem to make use of GPU nor CPU. Both severely underutilised. However, the fact remains that the website performed just fine prior to the change, and most other websites perform well too.

Hardware acceleration is more for video content than anything.

If one of you has a 4k native monitor, can you try 8k DSR with 400% Windows scaling and open a game page in a browser?
最后由 White ⁧⁧Wolf 编辑于; 11 月 8 日 上午 7:21
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Ferox_Stormdragon 11 月 8 日 上午 6:51 
If everyone else is not having performance issues with the store with less powerful hardware, it's definitely something on your end and not the website.

Browsers definitely do use GPU and CPU, i can load up the store in Brave and have zero issues.
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orono 11 月 8 日 上午 7:59 
引用自 White ⁧⁧Wolf：
引用自 Dan5000：
I see no difference and the general feedback I heared is that it runs even smoother than before. Somethings not quite right on your end.
I use 8k with 400% scaling, but the shop before the new update performed fine. Now it's a slideshow. Nothing changed other than the site itself.

Talking about in the browser(Firefox, in this case).

I suffer the same problem, but only on Firefox. Product pages run very slow, scroll is lagging, they use a lot of GPU. It does not happen with Brave or Edge (Chromium based browsers). Probably Steam devs do not even test their work on Firefox anymore.
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