mimi 11 月 6 日 上午 7:23
Hate the current UI. It's bland and dull and Steam uses way more resources than it needs to
Granted, I don't have the best specs (my PC is utterly bottlenecked by a 15 year old CPU) but even so, Steam ran fine with much prettier UI back in the day. But I think trying to defend this point is pointless.

With that out of the way, let's talk about the minimalistic UI.

I despise it. It's ugly to look at. It's dull, it's bland. What else is there to say. I like the old UI I saw when I started Steam. It was quite minimal too, but it had character to it. You can't even customise it much (at least to my knowledge) so I'm just stuck looking at this eye-burning nonsense. Had to turn on high contrast mode, and that feels a little bit better.

We've lost that ancient sauce, folks.
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Ice9 11 月 6 日 上午 7:42 
lol people like you always find a way to whine about everything, even if no one cares about your opinion. If you don’t like it, why don’t you use something like steambrew? https://steambrew.app/
mimi 11 月 6 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 Ice9
lol people like you always find a way to whine about everything, even if no one cares about your opinion. If you don’t like it, why don’t you use something like steambrew? https://steambrew.app/
People like you respond like this to every complaint. No I genuinely am upset by the Steam UI and how much resources the Steam client uses but sure come and insult me.

Thanks for the recommendation though, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
mimi 11 月 6 日 下午 1:05 
Haven't used the Steam forums in years. Forgot people can be so stuck up for no reason.
AmsterdamHeavy 11 月 6 日 下午 1:17 
Once youre at a 15 year old CPU you start losing the right to complain about performance. I can say this using a 2600K in 2025. It was quite a good CPU at the time. Buying quality pays as it has held up very well for most things until today. It still does well but has fallen behind slowly but surely.

I have another box here that is much newer. Its a junky N-something Celeron with a 1.5 ghz clock speed. Its a garbage test box. I dont think this entire PC cost as much as that 2600K did new.

I dont complain how the Steam client performs on either of them.
最后由 AmsterdamHeavy 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 1:18
mimi 11 月 6 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
Once youre at a 15 year old CPU you start losing the right to complain about performance. I can say this using a 2600K in 2025. It was quite a good CPU at the time. Buying quality pays as it has held up very well for most things until today. It still does well but has fallen behind slowly but surely.

I have another box here that is much newer. Its a junky N-something Celeron with a 1.5 ghz clock speed. Its a garbage test box. I dont think this entire PC cost as much as that 2600K did new.

I dont complain how the Steam client performs on either of them.
Yeah no I can't help but agree HOWEVER the Steam client can't possibly be so sophisticated that a 15 year old CPU struggles with it? Just food for thought. I have no hope of winning that argument.
最后由 mimi 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 1:22
NakiBest 11 月 6 日 下午 1:34 
What exact CPU do you use?

You can offset a very old CPU/motherboard by using a good, fast SATA3 SSD, good, much newer GPU - say from Nvidia GeForce 3000 range, and at least 16 GB of RAM.

Using 8 GB of RAM may work, but will get slower in many cases.
最后由 NakiBest 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 1:44
Shreddy 11 月 6 日 下午 1:42 
While I agree the UI is poorly designed garbage you have to remember that steam is in a monopolistic position within PC gaming with no meaningful competition and also have a legion of sycophants who will defend their awful business practices so I strongly doubt that having a well designed UI is a priority for them.
NakiBest 11 月 6 日 下午 1:48 
引用自 Shreddy
While I agree the UI is poorly designed garbage you have to remember that steam is in a monopolistic position within PC gaming with no meaningful competition and also have a legion of sycophants who will defend their awful business practices so I strongly doubt that having a well designed UI is a priority for them.
Have to strongly disagree here.
Everyone else is worse! So, Steam UI not ideal maybe but definitely not "worst" or "poor".

All of the competition is from vastly to fairly/slightly inferior, such as -- Battle.Net client, Ubisoft Connect, EA (new) desktop app, GOG Galaxy client, Epic Games Store, Microsoft Store.

(several other niche, smaller launcher/clients exist and they are all very inferior too, no need to even compare.. And they are all very limited in scope i.e. cover products of just 1 company usually, unlike Steam.)
最后由 NakiBest 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 1:50
Hikari Light 11 月 6 日 下午 1:52 
引用自 Shreddy
While I agree the UI is poorly designed garbage you have to remember that steam is in a monopolistic position within PC gaming with no meaningful competition and also have a legion of sycophants who will defend their awful business practices so I strongly doubt that having a well designed UI is a priority for them.

You clearly don't know what a monopoly is do you?

A monopoly means they have NO competition and can raise the prices as high as they want.

I can name at least 4 other stores right now.
GoG, Ubisoft Connect, Epic Games Store, and Origin (Electronic Arts store).

And since Valve cannot control the price of any games on Steam except their own, then it is impossible for them to have monopoly.

Also, Valve only owns the rights to games they developed, so the devs of all the other games could remove their games from Steam if they wish and Valve has no way to stop them.

So despite what you and others who refuse to understand how things really work think, Steam literally cannot have a monopoly.

Also, Steam provides more stuff for both devs wanting to sell and for regular users looking to buy, that is why devs come to Steam to sell their games.
最后由 Hikari Light 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 2:02
NakiBest 11 月 6 日 下午 2:27 
引用自 Hikari Light
引用自 Shreddy
While I agree the UI is poorly designed garbage you have to remember that steam is in a monopolistic position within PC gaming with no meaningful competition and also have a legion of sycophants who will defend their awful business practices so I strongly doubt that having a well designed UI is a priority for them.

You clearly don't know what a monopoly is do you?

A monopoly means they have NO competition and can raise the prices as high as they want.

I can name at least 4 other stores right now.
GoG, Ubisoft Connect, Epic Games Store, and Origin (Electronic Arts store).

You are missing the Microsoft Store, Apple iOS/Mac App Store - both quite big for the respective platforms. :)
最后由 NakiBest 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 2:28
Hikari Light 11 月 6 日 下午 2:47 
引用自 NakiBest
引用自 Hikari Light

You clearly don't know what a monopoly is do you?

A monopoly means they have NO competition and can raise the prices as high as they want.

I can name at least 4 other stores right now.
GoG, Ubisoft Connect, Epic Games Store, and Origin (Electronic Arts store).

You are missing the Microsoft Store, Apple iOS/Mac App Store - both quite big for the respective platforms. :)
I simply named a few.
If we named every PC game storefront, we would be here for a long while.
NakiBest 11 月 6 日 下午 3:07 
引用自 Hikari Light
引用自 NakiBest

You are missing the Microsoft Store, Apple iOS/Mac App Store - both quite big for the respective platforms. :)
I simply named a few.
If we named every PC game storefront, we would be here for a long while.
No, not really. :)

Many of those so-called storefronts are simply websites selling games.
They lack a dedicated PC/Mac/Linux client, and just allow purchasing games. :)

(So, they are not in the same category as Steam, MS Store, GoG Galaxy/etc, being just websites, not platforms/programs.)

As I said above, niche clients exist but are very limited, such as Riot Games client, Paradox games client, RockStar Games Launcher and the like.
最后由 NakiBest 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 3:09
Crazy Tiger 11 月 6 日 下午 4:11 
So, personal preference over aesthetics and an old PC. But it's the launchers. Right...

引用自 NakiBest
Many of those so-called storefronts are simply websites selling games.
Retail storefronts are simply buildings selling games.

A store is a store.
Hikari Light 11 月 6 日 下午 4:28 
引用自 NakiBest
引用自 Hikari Light
I simply named a few.
If we named every PC game storefront, we would be here for a long while.
No, not really. :)

Many of those so-called storefronts are simply websites selling games.
They lack a dedicated PC/Mac/Linux client, and just allow purchasing games. :)

(So, they are not in the same category as Steam, MS Store, GoG Galaxy/etc, being just websites, not platforms/programs.)

As I said above, niche clients exist but are very limited, such as Riot Games client, Paradox games client, RockStar Games Launcher and the like.
A website selling anything is a digital storefront.
They do not have to have a separate client from their website.
最后由 Hikari Light 编辑于; 11 月 6 日 下午 4:28
Steam isn't perfect but if we are too compare it to other places where you can purchase games for your PC then it easily ranks on top. Also Steam does hold effectively a monopoly even if it isn't a true monopoly over the PC game market. While it is true that other platforms and websites exist calling them competitors is laughable. Once again Steam isn't perfect but compared to others it is better. If you don't like Steam then try others, maybe you'll find something better for you. There's nothing wrong with that.
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