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And due to how Steam is already set up to handle CC, it was the quickest and cheapest way to get age verification up.
Steam has already shown they don't want to deal with any sort of government IDs via how German users are unable to access adult content games because the German government wants more invasive personal info that Steam doesn't want to be responsible for.
The only reason UK user have an option, the ONLY reason, is that Valve already accept credit cards and just having one attached to the account meets the requirements of the law. If that were to change or get more complicated, you should expect UK users to also have no age verification options and all UK users would be age restricted.
Restricting everyone is a valid implementation to satisfy the legal requirements. And there's nothing under the UK law which requires a store to offer multiple age verification options.
Having that understanding might cause you to think about your OP a bit differently. You might like for there to be other options. I think Valve would like to deal with the inconvenience to them as little as possible. And this might be a case, concerning their platform, what Valve wants wins.
Which is all well and good, but then when you weigh that up against the low cost of using an age verification service against the loss of revenue then its a little harder to understand. The cost can even be passed on to the user if Valve doesn't want to consider it "the cost of doing business".
Considering 99% of affected business have managed to implement a comprehensive system it just seems bizarre that Valve chooses to be an outlier.
It would also make Steam accounts bigger targets for scammers as they would then get access to someones government ID and that is worse than getting ahold of someones CC info.
Valve wouldn't receive any government ID, or any information at all, beyond an 18/not18 flag.
You would need to provide the info to Valve first and then Valve would send it to be verified.
Then that Info stays on the account only visible to Steam staff and who ever uses the account.
The ID info will always be on the account.
And if it was as simple as you claim, why has Valve never done this for German users?
Because Valve doesn't want to deal with private info like government IDs.
You have it the wrong way round.
Valve would redirect you to the third party service.
The service would do their job and delete the data, sending only the result to Valve.
The credit card method is damned near foolproof. The card holder receives statements, and the card company can contact them, and probably will call about that odd charge. This means there is no identity stealing, spoofing of credentials, or using a paid cutout.
In other words Valve isn't going to end up on your nightly news, and your government wont have to strengthen the law further. As others have rightly pointed out be thankful for the option. These stories about plenty of folks not being able to get credit cards.
Those are absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of the highest order. Not wanting to get a credit card on principle, or not being able to give out your real name. None of that means that the overwhelming majority of Brits. Can't actually get a credit card with little to no real effort.
Frankly if you need to play sex games that badly, and you just can't stand the thought of credit cards. There are physical stores you can go to in real life. That actually sell those games to folks like yourself, and have been doing so long before Steam.
You don't need to play your porn here, and given the tightening laws over there. You'd be better off getting physical media. Valve has made it as difficult as possible. Without outright getting into bed with your government. Which none of the rest of us would particularly care for.
They don't need to do a damn thing. You all need to go to the sex shop. If you are going to insist. That you wont or can't get a credit card, and in the case of the latter it begs the question. How'd you afford the computer in the first place. If you are so credit unworthy that you can't get a card.
Only UK citizens over the age of 18 can obtain a Credit Card, thus it is recognized as a valid method of age verification.
And with a casual photo.....have you not heard of Photoshop?
Well, as stated the law wasn't passed to inconvenience you.
It was to ensure it is harder for under age user to gain access to Adult content.
And Steam had already refused to deal with Government IDs (look at German users, they cannot access any adult content as Germany does not accept anything except government issued IDs).
As they already handle CC, that was the easiest way for them to be able to sell Adult games in the UK due to the new law.
So maybe go complain to your law makers instead of Steam.
Your law makers are the root source of the issue.
Actually, the smarter way to do it is have steam sign a token, then you take that token (metaphorically, its all automated) to a government website, login and get it signed by the government as 'proof' that you're an adult. Then you take that back to valve and valve can store the signed token away as evidence that at some point, the government vouched for that user/token pair. If the token is ever stolen, it doesn't matter because its only useful to valve and even then doesn't let them do anything except sell you adult games.
While giving Valve credit card details isn't a huge deal (countless people have their credit cards compromised every single day), its also not particularly good at proving age.
I have never had a CC nor do i want one. I pay via DC. I have never been abroad so i dont have a passport and i didnt bother to learn to drive (too costly to do that ♥♥♥♥).
Also the UK government are ment to be bringing out an ID card that (from what i understand) will be mandatory and you will have to BUY it, without one you will NOT be allowed to work in the UK (yeah good luck with that one) since i wont be buying that either.
Its more dictatorship thesedays than anything else, you eat what we say, you drink what we say you can sheet when we say you can and above all you buy what we say you buy
The british really are something else.
Just because the overwhelming majority of adults might own credit cards in your own countries, that doesn't mean it's the same everywhere else. In the UK, only around 60% or so of adults actually own a credit card. You know why that is? If you are sensible and aren't spending above your means or struggling financially, you have very little reason to need one! I'm 28 years old and have never wanted or needed a credit card for anything in my life. Why should I have to go out and apply for one (hopefully successfully) solely to buy games from a company that's valued at around $40 billion? Surely if much less profitable organisations and websites can provide multiple methods of age verification, Valve can afford to do so as well.
I fully appreciate that the Online Safety Act is something the UK government have introduced not Valve. However, Steam is the only platform I've come across since the introduction of the act that is restricting its users this way. It's not as if myself and others complaining about this are doing so solely for our own benefit. We're literally asking Valve to let us give them our money! I'm legally able to purchase this kind of content if I want to, so just let me verify my age without having to go and get a credit card that I don't want or need!
If your thoughts on this are that Valve shouldn't need to do anything here simply because the cause is adult games, then Valve shouldn't have them on the platform at all should they. If they're available and I'm legally allowed to buy them, I shouldn't be prevented from doing so just because they can't be arsed providing their users with alternative methods of age verification. If your response to this is that Valve are entitled to do whatever they want in this situation, then you are very right yes. However, I'm then equally entitled to stop using their platform to buy games, as I'm sure others might choose to as well. It just feels stupid to lose custom that they really don't need to.
Finally, I feel the need to confirm that I have no issues whatsoever with the Online Safety Act in principle. However, I do find it pretty ridiculous that I can't buy a game on here now because it contains sexual content, but I can very easily purchase a game like GTA with no issues at all...If you're supposed to be protecting children from adult content, surely any games with a mature age rating should be inaccessible without verifying your age? Or are extremely popular titles like GTA just exempt on the grounds that it would financially damage Valve too much to make them less accessible to people?...