Valves game approval process is racist and malicious as proven by this game.....allegedly.
For clarity: I am NOT opposed on Valve selling this game on their platform nor do i want a discussion about morals. As a gamer, i just want Valve to change their game acceptance process in a way that offers equality of opportunity, transparency and is fair to us customers.

F censorship in any way or form.


https://psteamproxy.yuanyoumao.com/app/3935800/SLEEPLESS_A_Midsummer_Nights_Dream/

This here game has gone through the Steam game review process and has been deemed worthy as a product to sell on their platform. Now again i like to clearly state that i am in no way opposed to Steam selling this game on their platform nor am i here to discuss the morality of this work in any way.

I just want to point out a few things:
1. Steam's game acceptance process is random at best and biased at worst. Where games that have not a hint of naughtiness get rejected because there might be minors in vulnerable situations or suspected child exploitation where there actually is none.
2. By allowing this game on their platform Steam have lost the moral high-ground and have no justification to ban any game no matter its content, as long at is not against the US federal law.

So they can fire Mary and DungeonTravelers 2-2 for example can be sold here without any issue, Huzzah.

So what is this game about you ask?, well let me show you the content description to get the idea:

---MATURE CONTENT DESCRIPTION
The developers describe the content like this:

This title is designed for adult (18+) audiences only. The content of this game may not be suitable for all people.

This game contains fictional representations of the following: nudity, sexual interactions including consensual sex, nonconsensual sex, bondage, mammary intercourse, oral sex, breast milk, incest, feces, and urine.

All players of this story should also be functionally resilient to potential stressors such as depictions of alcohol consumption, crude language, fictional pleasure enhancing drug injections, bodily harm, insinuated abortion, and slavery.

This game is designed purely as a work of fiction, please play responsibly.---

Seems like people who play this game, do so clearly for its Christian message (joke).

So we seem to have a game where people get exploited, abused, drugged, tortured, enslaved, r*ped, murdered and those actions are committed by a party in a position of trust and power and received by another party in a position of dependence.

I have not played this game nor is it likely i ever will, so i gathered this all from the store page and for legality reasons the content description will make it seem worse than it actually is. But i am not here to write a review, i only want to point out the blatant hypocrisy by the Steam store, when it comes to allowing which game on the store, and by extension a lot of its consumers who are up in arms in a heartbeat ready to burn the gooners alive while happily keep using and supporting the platform that generate their income by providing gooning content and that gladly takes their stained dollar bills........

If this game is allowed on this store there is a growing suspicion that i had which seems more and more real:
- Steam is not forced to censor itself by any payment processor, authority, organisation or NGO, but do so willingly at the drop of a hat without warning.
- Unless you are a major publisher with a horde of lawyers at your bidding, the process to get your (mainly Japanese) game on the store might as well be a tossing a coin.
- Steam has no moral issues of any sort when i comes to the approval of games.
- Someone or some reviewers in the approval process seem to have a personal issue with games where there are fictional "minors" that are placed in compromising/vulnerable positions in games like in LoveR an is waging a personal crusade, so games with somewhat risque content or not even having anything remotely like that can be banned, refused a place to sell on the Steam Store for no apparent reason and citing child exploitation willy nillly, destroying a future because of a personal opinion,vendetta, or dislike.

So i like to ask Steam to make their review process in accordance of the US federal law to not prohibit the sale of any games unless its content is deemed illegal by that same law.

Remove any personal bias from the game approval process and create a fair environment for every developer regardless of political affiliation, religion, culture or perspective on society as long as it is legal under the US federal law.

Engage in clear communication with developers and clearly state on which grounds a game has been rejected/banned from the Steam store with footage of the content which is in violation of the Steam content rule so the developer can relay this to the community if they choose to do so to inform their community who often have to guess where the game is gone.

This might be a little over-reacting since Steam is a private company and can allow and refuse what they want, however they want. I agree but recently Steam is becoming more and more of a monopoly where selling or not selling your game on Steam is a humongous factor between success and complete failure. Steam is burning their customers trust like a Soviet era electric generator burns diesel. Banning games, changing CS loot rules all while not communicating and the customer have to take and has little choice to agree since a lot have major investments in the Steam platform, be it games or its community, so i think its time for some changes that make us trust Steam again.

And the Steam community i would like to ask: If you see a game that you don't find interesting, morally questionable, or even repulsive. Use the by Steam provided tools to ignore the game or even its developer and move on. No use to harp on the community topics how morally righteous you are, how we need to face walls for playing game x or liking genre y. It is rather tiresome to wade thread after thread like that when all you is looking for a solution to stop the game from crashing again and again.

Live and let live you know, real life is hard enough so let us all be free in our choices when it comes to fiction, maybe someday we might find each other on the same side in the trenches to defend that which we both value.
最后由 PinkPanzer 编辑于; 7 小时以前
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Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves
The games you are talking about I am guessing from the various threads that have been posted recently were games depicting minors in a sexual form and that is highly illegal in many countries and continuing to argue about it is not going to help your case.

Adult games are fine as long as they follow the rules in place as is the case here it looks like and if you do not like these types of games you are fine to enable adult content filters again as they are on by default.
引用自 fluxtorrent
Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves
And the not reading the post and making baseless assumptions award goes to...............fluxtorrent. congratulations good sir, please tell me how did you manage such a great feat?, and would you like to say a word of thanks to your fanbase?.
引用自 Chompman
The games you are talking about I am guessing from the various threads that have been posted recently were games depicting minors in a sexual form and that is highly illegal in many countries and continuing to argue about it is not going to help your case.

Adult games are fine as long as they follow the rules in place as is the case here it looks like and if you do not like these types of games you are fine to enable adult content filters again as they are on by default.
Well there can only be one winner sadly, please try again at my next topic. But looking at the content of your comment fluxtorrent has to deal with some stiff competiton.
最后由 PinkPanzer 编辑于; 22 小时以前
引用自 PinkPanzer
引用自 fluxtorrent
Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves
And the not reading the post and making baseless assumptions award goes to...............fluxtorrent. congratulations good sir, please tell me how did you manage such a great feat?, and would you like to say a word of thanks to your fanbase?.
It's not about failing to read but trying to deny the simple fact the games you referred to were showing minors that could be illegal in many countries and steam has a right to not sell those types of games.

People have been told this in those other threads and even when told that is illegal they even go so far as to say it's not illegal because they are "not real people" even after they are told the law applies to anime / drawn art of such content.
引用自 PinkPanzer
congratulations good sir, please tell me how did you manage such a great feat?, and would you like to say a word of thanks to your fanbase?.

It seems certain users have caught onto the fact that you're allowed to insult others as long as you use the right insults.

Steam rejects a game to be published; it's gets published on GOG instead.

Despite this, claim the game has illegal content and that the only people who have a problem with the game being removed are attracted to children.

Steam moderation looks the other way while this happens for some reason; consequence-free trolling successful.
This games should exist and be untouched, unrestricted and uncensored.
Except of course age restrictions and be under R18 filter.
I don't see any issues for this games to exist, just as Valve
I'm guessing...outrage over the store's removal of or not allowing a game with middle schoolers wearing miniskirts in compromising positions?

"but the depiction of underage girls in revealing costu-" Yep, called it.

Towel shot, numerous bathing suit shots (one dlc that's a borderline microbikini), a girl who seems to look to be in panties and a gym sweatshirt.

The characters are supposedly what...2nd year of highschool? So...16?

Minors? Check. Skimpy clothes? Check. Compromising positions? Check.
最后由 Leonardo Da Pinchi 编辑于; 21 小时以前
引用自 PinkPanzer
引用自 fluxtorrent
Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves
And the not reading the post and making baseless assumptions award goes to...............fluxtorrent. congratulations good sir, please tell me how did you manage such a great feat?, and would you like to say a word of thanks to your fanbase?.

Maybe don't GPT up a 12 page essay if you want people to read it all?
I like how they said, Steam should follow federal law. Steam is, and Canada Law and a few EU laws, when it comes to said content not being allowed that they are protesting should be allowed.

Being fictional by said laws, doesn't make it legal.
最后由 Komarimaru 编辑于; 21 小时以前
引用自 Komarimaru
I like how they said, Steam should follow federal law. Steam is, and Canada Law and a few EU laws, when it comes to said content not being allowed that they are protesting should be allowed.

Being fictional by said laws, doesn't make it legal.
A lot are the type of people that say it's not a crime because the minors in question are not real people and don't seem to understand that laws have been passed dealing with this for over a decade now.
I see no underage appearing characters with a quick glance. Thats the difference. It isnt arbitrary.
Writing a story where a rape occurs and making a game where the objective is to rape people are two very different things. I see no contradiction in Valve's application of their policies.

I'm not sure how you got your analysis of the game from what was written on the page. It sounds like you're describing a very different game than the one you linked to.
引用自 fluxtorrent
Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves

So explain why FMV game Hamukoi, which features only 18+ characters, with real adult women taking the roles, and featuring no sex at all, was banned by Valve.
引用自 Chika Ogiue
引用自 fluxtorrent
Minors do not belong in those situations and everyone complaining is telling on themselves

So explain why FMV game Hamukoi, which features only 18+ characters, with real adult women taking the roles, and featuring no sex at all, was banned by Valve.

There's an explicit rule against sexual content involving real people. If you're explicitly stating that they're adults, I would assume there's something along those lines going on.
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