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Lying Sack Of Fun 9 月 7 日 下午 3:58
It was never collective shout.
I'm not sure anyone noticed this or not but look up the top 3 shareholders for Visa and Mastercard.

Those same shareholders have been buying up literally anything they can get their greedy little hands on from real estate all the way down to games.

Steam isn't publicly traded and they don't like that. The only option for them is to run Steam out of business and replace them. That's how the world works now. The CEO of one of them under the name of 'Larry Fink' is famously known for stating "You have to force behaviors, and at BlackRock we are forcing behaviors".

It was never collective shout that wanted Steam to fail. They're the scapegoat for something that's been taking place for years.

You don't need to believe it, It's just a far right conspiracy theory anyway.

Edit: Some of them are also major figures at the WEF (World Economic Forum). Just thought I'd put that out there.
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Jololo 9 月 7 日 下午 4:46 
They just pressured to eliminate illegal content in multiple western countries
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Dendrobates Tinctorius 9 月 7 日 下午 5:08 
引用自 Lying Sack Of Fun：
I'm not sure anyone noticed this or not but look up the top 3 shareholders for Visa and Mastercard.

Those same shareholders have been buying up literally anything they can get their greedy little hands on from real estate all the way down to games.

Steam isn't publicly traded and they don't like that. The only option for them is to run Steam out of business and replace them. That's how the world works now. The CEO of one of them under the name of 'Larry Fink' is famously known for stating "You have to force behaviors, and at BlackRock we are forcing behaviors".

It was never collective shout that wanted Steam to fail. They're the scapegoat for something that's been taking place for years.

You don't need to believe it, It's just a far right conspiracy theory anyway.

Edit: Some of them are also major figures at the WEF (World Economic Forum). Just thought I'd put that out there.
Thank you for pointing out that extremely large investment firms invest in multiple things at once. This astonishing revelation will change politics forever.
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Kikinaak 9 月 7 日 下午 5:38 
Of course collective shout were cannon fodder, just like SBI before them, but they are cannon fodder that believes themselves to be some holy champion.

In other news, anyone see the announcement by Visa that they are going to "change gaming" by "reimagining how payments power the future of play"? Ya, they want to become game publishers or even devs, so of course they are trying to attack the industry.
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TrumpedUpFox 9 月 7 日 下午 6:36 
These "Shareholders" are at risk of turning the world against them. What will they do when every living person on the planet is out to drain the life from their veins?
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Jololo 9 月 7 日 下午 6:41 
引用自 TrumpedUpFox：
These "Shareholders" are at risk of turning the world against them. What will they do when every living person on the planet is out to drain the life from their veins?
Nothing, peasants rebellions fail most of the time
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Kikinaak 9 月 7 日 下午 6:52 
We aren't peasants, and we don't have to rebel. All we need is an alternative. Gamers make up half the population of the planet. GOG takes skrill and paysafecard. The first payment method Steam adds that doesn't involve paypal or the credit barons will find themselves billionaires overnight. Or let them set up for direct ACH. Anything that cuts out the abusive processors.
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Jololo 9 月 7 日 下午 6:58 
引用自 Kikinaak：
We aren't peasants, and we don't have to rebel. All we need is an alternative. Gamers make up half the population of the planet. GOG takes skrill and paysafecard. The first payment method Steam adds that doesn't involve paypal or the credit barons will find themselves billionaires overnight. Or let them set up for direct ACH. Anything that cuts out the abusive processors.
You still have the same problem, those payments processors need to follow the law so back to the same square.
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Dendrobates Tinctorius 9 月 7 日 下午 7:05 
引用自 Kikinaak：
We aren't peasants, and we don't have to rebel. All we need is an alternative. Gamers make up half the population of the planet. GOG takes skrill and paysafecard. The first payment method Steam adds that doesn't involve paypal or the credit barons will find themselves billionaires overnight. Or let them set up for direct ACH. Anything that cuts out the abusive processors.
tfw youre only five years old and sitting in a squalid hut waiting to see whether starvation or hiv kills you first but then a new fortnite skin drops and you gotta have it. gamers together. gamers have hope.
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Kikinaak 9 月 7 日 下午 7:24 
引用自 Jololo：
You still have the same problem, those payments processors need to follow the law so back to the same square.
Which law do you think the current payment barons are following that allow this? In the USA, for instance, what the card barons are doing is called racketeering and is against the law, but good luck actually challenging it in court. My whole point was that gamers would unanimously support an alternative method that doesn't dictate how we are allowed to spend our money.
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robilar5500 9 月 7 日 下午 7:41 
引用自 Kikinaak：
We aren't peasants, and we don't have to rebel. All we need is an alternative. Gamers make up half the population of the planet. GOG takes skrill and paysafecard. The first payment method Steam adds that doesn't involve paypal or the credit barons will find themselves billionaires overnight. Or let them set up for direct ACH. Anything that cuts out the abusive processors.
There aren't 4 billion gamers. Why make up numbers?
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Kikinaak 9 月 7 日 下午 8:53 
引用自 robilar5500：
There aren't 4 billion gamers. Why make up numbers?
I asked google how many gamers there are in the world, and accounted for there always being a margin that denies it. Close enough, and still more than enough paying customers that moving to a new option once Steam gives us one would be a crippling blow to those trying to control our money.
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Ben Lubar 9 月 7 日 下午 9:35 
引用自 Jololo：
They just pressured to eliminate illegal content in multiple western countries

If the content was illegal, nobody would need a payment processor to strong-arm a platform into removing it.
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Nx Machina 9 月 7 日 下午 9:52 
引用自 Lying Sack Of Fun：
I'm not sure anyone noticed this or not but look up the top 3 shareholders for Visa and Mastercard.

Those same shareholders have been buying up literally anything they can get their greedy little hands on from real estate all the way down to games.

Steam isn't publicly traded and they don't like that. The only option for them is to run Steam out of business and replace them. That's how the world works now. The CEO of one of them under the name of 'Larry Fink' is famously known for stating "You have to force behaviors, and at BlackRock we are forcing behaviors".

It was never collective shout that wanted Steam to fail. They're the scapegoat for something that's been taking place for years.

You don't need to believe it, It's just a far right conspiracy theory anyway.

Edit: Some of them are also major figures at the WEF (World Economic Forum). Just thought I'd put that out there.

Was it the shareholders who wanted very specific adult content removing? No.

It was Collective Shout. On July 18, 2025, the anti-pornography group Collective Shout claimed victory by pressuring payment processors to remove a large number of sexually explicit games from Steam and Itch.io.

That large number was only 100 of very specific adult content. Other adult sexual content remains available because adults have choice, a point Collective Shout miss.
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Nx Machina 9 月 7 日 下午 9:55 
引用自 Jololo：
They just pressured to eliminate illegal content in multiple western countries

If the content was illegal it would not have being available on Steam and Itch.io.
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Animus 9 月 7 日 下午 10:03 
Tbh I feel this renewed rally from Collective Shout is actually being organized by conservative groups, as they get a LOT of funding from evangelical and conservative forces.

On top of the co-founder being a conservative fundamentalist Christian. I believe it's religion trying to weasel its' way into what can and can't be added into games, which has been tried in the past.
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