I think the new "Old World" release was brought back by popular demand but there are some changes.

Generally there are 3 worlds on 2 timelines:

Fantasy which only takes place on one planet, and is what you can experience in vermintide and the total war warhammer games.

Chaos won the last battle and managed to destroy the planet. Sigmar collected some of his very powerful buddies and made them into gods (like the necromancer Nagash becoming the god of death). That's what Age of Sigmar is - it takes place on many worlds/planets but there's a bunch of familiar characters from fantasy.

40k is not linked at all other than some of the occasional retconned explanations such as "the Fantasy world is cut off by an impassable warp storm" and "the whole 40k universe is actually inside a small crystal globe in the Altdorf university of magic.

The warp and chaos gods are the same across the series, but for example in 40k we get origin stories while in Fantasy they simply always existed. Though it is said that the warp can access different worlds so you know, multiverse merging possibilities are left open.

引用自 Ing. Ithiridiel：

I think...are left open.

Thanks for the succinct explanation.

Regarding the end of the Old World, do you mean the planet as a body of mass is wiped out, all life on the planet is wiped out, all non-Chaos factions are wiped out, or something else? Also, did Sigmar and his buddies use some kind of space travel or dimension gates or something to travel to other planets? Also, is Sigmar completely new from Age of Sigmar, or is he part of the Old War lore too?

Finally, what's the best way to get into the canon lore chronologically? Is there a series of novels sanctioned by Games Workshop, or do I have to join a tabletop cabal and rank up to learn the secret lore?

引用自 Monkeypro：

引用自 Ing. Ithiridiel：

I think...are left open.

Thanks for the succinct explanation.

Regarding the end of the Old World, do you mean the planet as a body of mass is wiped out, all life on the planet is wiped out, all non-Chaos factions are wiped out, or something else? Also, did Sigmar and his buddies use some kind of space travel or dimension gates or something to travel to other planets? Also, is Sigmar completely new from Age of Sigmar, or is he part of the Old War lore too?

Finally, what's the best way to get into the canon lore chronologically? Is there a series of novels sanctioned by Games Workshop, or do I have to join a tabletop cabal and rank up to learn the secret lore?

I can't really answer those questions as I'm not that much of a lore expert, but I believe the whole planet was turned into void due to a ritual that unleashed all the winds of magic (which blow from the warp) (?).

Sigmar is the same Sigmar across the universes, he lost one planet but turned his buddies/frenemies into gods and continued fighting chaos in the multiverse.

> At first I thought there was just Warhammer fantasy and Warhammer 40K. Then I learned that the fantasy part is Old World and Age of Sigmar, and I'm not sure if Fantasy refers to Old World or both Old World and AoS.

There are 2 great setting:

Battle Fantasy, which has 3 main settings:
* Battle Fantasy: the OG, happen during the reign of Karl Franz, end with the End Time (and tried to end with Storm of Chaos before)
* Blood Bowl: Alternate Battle Fantasy, where Dwarfs and Goblins unearthed rules for a fantasy version of American Football
* Age of Sigmar: a new "High" fantasy setting, where the Winds gained/explored planar worlds, and where the many of the surviving gods from Battle Fantasy now fight against Chaos
* "Old World": a relaunch of Battle Fantasy's system, but set around 200 years before the reign of Karl Franz, during or right after the Great war against Chaos and the start of Magnus the Pious' reign.

Alongside that, there are multiple smaller table top and boxed games sets in some of those settings: Dreadfleet, Manowar, Mordheim, Warcry...

Warhammer 40k, which has 2.5 main settings:
* Warhammer 40k: the current story, with Guilliman returned
* Warhammer 30k: Which center around the Horus Heresy
* Necromunda: Which center around the planet of Necromunda (lorewise much smaller than any of the other listed, but explored much more extensively)

Alongside that, there are multiple smaller table top and boxed games sets in some of those settings: Kill Team, Aeronautica, Battle Fleet Gothic...


- I heard all sorts of things like that AoS was made to sell new tabletop models because the original got too expensive and that in making AoS they changed some of the names and lore in original fantasy due to copyright and other reasons so a lot of the old school people hate AoS.

So Battle Fantasy (OG) got killed cause it wasn't selling well, then they had peoples at GW (iirc artists and designers) that wanted to keep doing fantasy stuff. So they tried to do AoS, and it worked so now they're doing quite good on that part.




- Also, I think I read that AoS takes place largely after old fantasy which ended with End Times, but that the End Time novels were rushed in order to crank out Age of Sigmar and there is some fan backlash about that too.

The End Time novels were bad, but that's mostly cause they wanted to kill BF in 1 edition (0.5 edition tbf). AoS isn't really the cause.

引用自 Heretical_Cactus：

There are 2 great setting:
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The End Time novels were bad, but that's mostly cause they wanted to kill BF in 1 edition (0.5 edition tbf). AoS isn't really the cause.

Wow. Thank you for the explanation point by point.

In the past month I've spent playing a range of Warhammer games (Chaosbane, Vermintide 2, Inquisitor Martyr, Boltgun Words of Vengeance), I'm finding the 40k universe much easier to get into. I have a number of 40k released and upcoming titles I'm looking forward to, but I don't know what's good or what's coming in the fantasy front. Do you have any suggestions here?

引用自 Monkeypro：

引用自 Heretical_Cactus：

There are 2 great setting:
...
The End Time novels were bad, but that's mostly cause they wanted to kill BF in 1 edition (0.5 edition tbf). AoS isn't really the cause.

Wow. Thank you for the explanation point by point.

In the past month I've spent playing a range of Warhammer games (Chaosbane, Vermintide 2, Inquisitor Martyr, Boltgun Words of Vengeance), I'm finding the 40k universe much easier to get into. I have a number of 40k released and upcoming titles I'm looking forward to, but I don't know what's good or what's coming in the fantasy front. Do you have any suggestions here?

If you mean video games, atm there aren't really anything that I remember having been announced except dlc for Total War and for VT2.

AoS atm, doesn't really have any good games tbh, and no idea when the next one is happening

Lorebeards is good.

引用自 Heretical_Cactus：

If you mean video games, atm there aren't really anything that I remember having been announced except dlc for Total War and for VT2.

AoS atm, doesn't really have any good games tbh, and no idea when the next one is happening

Good to know.

引用自 AmesNFire：

Lorebeards is good.

Oh, okay, it's a podcast. I might check it out some time. I searched Steam for "Lorebeards" and was left scratching my head for a bit :)