Steam Link

Steam Link

Technopop 2015 年 6 月 17 日 下午 12:42
Still Confused on Wireless vs Wired. Where and what does Steam Link connect with wires?
My PC is wired. My router is wired but can be accessed by wireless. My TV is in another room not near my router, so my consoles are wireless.

Does Steam Link need to be plugged into my router AND my TV with cables for good performance? Or does it just need to be connected to the router?

From what I gather, they're wanting my gaming rig wired up to my TV with cables via the Steam Link. Unless one is living in a studio or dorm, this doesn't seem practical. Why would I want cables running all over my house? Or why would I want my rig to be in my living room next to my TV? Isn't the idea to take gaming into the living room and away from the PC?

Steam needs to release a diagram or something. It seems like we all have similar questions based on our various set ups. "Wired connection highly recommended" is extremely vague.

If there needs to be cables running from my TV to Link and to my router, this whole thing is useless for me and a lot of people with similar set ups. The world is moving away from cables. This seems like old technology.
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8BitCerberus 2015 年 6 月 17 日 下午 11:19 
I'm constantly amazed how many people just don't bother to read anything anymore. Seriously, all this is on the store page. All of it.

When did RTFM become "ask the forums for the billionth time"?
Technopop 2015 年 6 月 19 日 下午 6:30 
It's on the page, but it's very vague. "Connect Link to your TV and home network. Wired connection highly recommended." Does Link have to be wired? Does the PC have to be wired? Do both?

And if people are asking the forums for the billionth time then what does that tell you? Hint: They need to update the store page with what people are asking because the content on the page is obviously lacking if people keep asking the same thing over and over.

Do you honestly think I'd rather type out a big long four paragraph question instead of finding the information I want?
8BitCerberus 2015 年 6 月 20 日 下午 12:40 
引用自 Scruzzer
It's on the page, but it's very vague. "Connect Link to your TV and home network. Wired connection highly recommended." Does Link have to be wired? Does the PC have to be wired? Do both?

How is that vague?

Connect Link to your TV and home network. A wired connection is highly recommended.

No where does it say a wired network is required. So what is confusing about that?

Does the link have to be wired? No.

Does the PC have to be wired? No.

Do both? No.

Can the link be wired? Yes.

Can the PC be wired? Yes.

Can both? Yes.
Mwen 2015 年 6 月 22 日 下午 7:34 
引用自 8-Bit Cerberus
引用自 Scruzzer
It's on the page, but it's very vague. "Connect Link to your TV and home network. Wired connection highly recommended." Does Link have to be wired? Does the PC have to be wired? Do both?

How is that vague?

Connect Link to your TV and home network. A wired connection is highly recommended.

No where does it say a wired network is required. So what is confusing about that?

Does the link have to be wired? No.

Does the PC have to be wired? No.

Do both? No.

Can the link be wired? Yes.

Can the PC be wired? Yes.

Can both? Yes.

Quit being a jerk. The guy had a question that went deeper than the store page, asked it and got an answer. Don't click here and read it just to whine and moan.
8BitCerberus 2015 年 6 月 22 日 下午 11:46 
If you think that's being a jerk, you might want to grow some thicker skin, or not spend too much more time on the internet. I think the word you're looking for is 'blunt.'

He asked questions that have been answered dozens of times, at least, and many times by myself even. Several of them in the same 15-20 topics on page one of the discussions at the time that he asked them. The most cursory glance at page one of the discussions would have answered his questions without having to make yet another thread. Not to mention the questions were answered in the store page already, even if he inexplicably found the information vague.
Technopop 2015 年 6 月 23 日 上午 11:00 
My answers weren't on the store page, that's why I asked. My PC is wired. My other devices are not. "A wired connection" is very vague when you're talking about multiple devices over multiple connections. That's why I asked.

And yes, I know that it's not required, it's highly recommended. I'm shooting for optimal performance, not minimum requirements. That's why I asked.

There are dozens of people with similar problems, but each one I read was different than my set up. Instead of reading a dozen irrelevant replies, I asked a question relevant to my situation.

People are asking the same question over and over and it bothers you for some reason. If you're so concerned about repetitive questions, why don't you contact Steam and ask them to build out a FAQ section that addresses FAQ's? Maybe that will take some of the pressure off you and help you to relax?

See that? That was a solution to your problem. If you complain without offering a solution, it's called whining. You're a whiner, dude. Stop wasting everyone's time whining, including your own.



8BitCerberus 2015 年 6 月 23 日 下午 4:47 
And optimal performance is wired all around. Hence "a wired connection is highly recommended." Nothing vague about that at all.

引用自 Scruzzer
If you complain without offering a solution, it's called whining.

Hmm...

all this is on the store page. All of it.

RTFM

Does the link have to be wired? No.

Does the PC have to be wired? No.

Do both? No.

Can the link be wired? Yes.

Can the PC be wired? Yes.

Can both? Yes.

Yep... no solutions there. Darn my whining.

You're a whiner, dude.

You wound me.
Sie 2015 年 6 月 23 日 下午 6:52 
Okay, let me reframe this question so there might be some real answers from people who aren't pricks. OP thinks the store page descriptions are vague and this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is doing his thing because OP was, himself, pretty damn vague with his question in the first place.

引用自 Steam
Connect Link to your TV and home network. Wired connection highly recommended.

So we know (obviously) that this thing needs to connect the TV to the router.

"Wired connection highly recommended."

So we know that SOMETHING can be wireless. Some Smart TVs connect to their network wirelessly. So can it connect to them wirelessly? Can this thing be wireless from the router AND the TV at the same time? Just sit somewhere in the house an optimal distance between the two? Likely not, but we don't know.

Second problem with that sentence (and another more specific question) is this: What is the criteria the developers and marketing team used to gauge this recomendation? What caused them to decide the word "highly" was necessary for this note? Because in PC gaming, a lot of the time, "highly recommended" means "flat don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work without it." So given various router/TV/PC specs what kind of performance can we actually expect for all available avanues of hookup?

It also says "just kick back with your favorite controller" or something along those lines, on the store page. As a prospective buyer, I want answers about that ♥♥♥♥ as well.

So I can use any controller I may use on my PC? My Xbox One controller mainly, can I use that? Sounds like it. Good. But does it have to be connected through a cable? If so, how many USB ports is it gonna have?

All of these much more specific questions aren't answered on the store page, and as far as I've seen, not in the forums either. As someone who is interested in spending my money on this product, these questions need to be answered before I buy.

In fact, someone less apt to investigate is going to buy this thing and be pissed about what they get, and ^this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy is going to be the prick on the forums going "serves you right for going off the store page and not digging deeper."

So if you've spread so much info on this topic, answer me those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ questions.
smoke63b 2015 年 6 月 24 日 上午 5:51 
It's also painfully obvious what's required and what's not required if you have ANY idea how a network functions... I mean it's a no-brainer based on what is stated on the store page in the description.

The problem here is people not understanding how their local network functions. The store page is 100% clear and nothing needs to be added to it. Any product that connects to your LAN is being sold to you with the assumption that you at least know what a LAN is and how it functions in your house/whereever. If you don't understand how it works, you should go do some research and learn a thing or two before you start purchasing consumer products to add into it.
TolstoyStory 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 4:10 
You can file this thread and his questions under research, so what's your problem exactly? Is it so hard to either answer them or simply go away instead?

I wanted to get some answers as well, but I still have to scroll through a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of wise-ass attitude with no constructive addition at all. What a waste of time, really.
robomagon 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 5:32 
引用自 Simoney
Okay, let me reframe this question so there might be some real answers from people who aren't pricks. OP thinks the store page descriptions are vague and this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is doing his thing because OP was, himself, pretty damn vague with his question in the first place.

引用自 Steam
Connect Link to your TV and home network. Wired connection highly recommended.

So we know (obviously) that this thing needs to connect the TV to the router.

"Wired connection highly recommended."

So we know that SOMETHING can be wireless. Some Smart TVs connect to their network wirelessly. So can it connect to them wirelessly? Can this thing be wireless from the router AND the TV at the same time? Just sit somewhere in the house an optimal distance between the two? Likely not, but we don't know.

Second problem with that sentence (and another more specific question) is this: What is the criteria the developers and marketing team used to gauge this recomendation? What caused them to decide the word "highly" was necessary for this note? Because in PC gaming, a lot of the time, "highly recommended" means "flat don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work without it." So given various router/TV/PC specs what kind of performance can we actually expect for all available avanues of hookup?

It also says "just kick back with your favorite controller" or something along those lines, on the store page. As a prospective buyer, I want answers about that ♥♥♥♥ as well.

So I can use any controller I may use on my PC? My Xbox One controller mainly, can I use that? Sounds like it. Good. But does it have to be connected through a cable? If so, how many USB ports is it gonna have?

All of these much more specific questions aren't answered on the store page, and as far as I've seen, not in the forums either. As someone who is interested in spending my money on this product, these questions need to be answered before I buy.

In fact, someone less apt to investigate is going to buy this thing and be pissed about what they get, and ^this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy is going to be the prick on the forums going "serves you right for going off the store page and not digging deeper."

So if you've spread so much info on this topic, answer me those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ questions.
It has 3 USB 2.0 ports.
You can use your Xbox One or 360 (wired or wireless) controller.
You'll need a wired HDMI connection between the Steam Link and the TV or Monitor you want to use.

You'll want a wired Ethernet connection between the Steam Link and your PC. There are several ways to do this. If you already have a wired connection between your PC and your router, then just connect the Steam Link to your router. If your PC is connected wirelessly to your router, then you can connect the Steam Link directly to your PC. You could also do that if your PC has more than one Ethernet port.

The reason a wired connection is recommended is because you'll be streaming 1080p/60 video in real time. It can't be buffered like say, a Netflix video can, because the video is being created in real time. So any inconsistencies in your wireless signal could drop frames.

You can still use wireless controllers without issue.
You can still use wireless internet without issue. Although depending on the location of your PC, router, and TV, it may make more sense to switch to a wired internet connection.
最后由 robomagon 编辑于; 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 5:35
Sie 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 6:55 
引用自 robomagon
It has 3 USB 2.0 ports.
You can use your Xbox One or 360 (wired or wireless) controller.
You'll need a wired HDMI connection between the Steam Link and the TV or Monitor you want to use.

You'll want a wired Ethernet connection between the Steam Link and your PC. There are several ways to do this. If you already have a wired connection between your PC and your router, then just connect the Steam Link to your router. If your PC is connected wirelessly to your router, then you can connect the Steam Link directly to your PC. You could also do that if your PC has more than one Ethernet port.

The reason a wired connection is recommended is because you'll be streaming 1080p/60 video in real time. It can't be buffered like say, a Netflix video can, because the video is being created in real time. So any inconsistencies in your wireless signal could drop frames.

You can still use wireless controllers without issue.
You can still use wireless internet without issue. Although depending on the location of your PC, router, and TV, it may make more sense to switch to a wired internet connection.

Thank you seriously for some specific answers. I really do appreciate it, but I have to ask. You're speaking in an awful lot of absolutes. Are these things you know for a fact, or just your best extrapolation from what's on the store page? Can you share where you got all the info?

Also, reading some definitive answers now gives me, personally, the thought that the questions that I actually want answers to just aren't going to be answered till this thing comes out and I read some user reviews. I think that might be the case for most people's (including OP) concerns.

If I buy this thing, I'll be hooking it up to my TV through HDMI, and connecting wirelessly to my router, which is wired to my PC. I'd imagine this is a very common set up.

As far as specs, I have a nice pretty new gaming rig, gigabit internet, and a router that is more than capable of handling that bandwidth. I feel like if it's going to work for any wireless set up at all it'd be that one. If it doesn't, there just isn't a point in buying it. So I just won't be able to get it till I see it in action with a similar set up.

All that aside though, I really do appreciate it, Robomagon. Thanks.
robomagon 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 8:01 
引用自 Simoney
引用自 robomagon
It has 3 USB 2.0 ports.
You can use your Xbox One or 360 (wired or wireless) controller.
You'll need a wired HDMI connection between the Steam Link and the TV or Monitor you want to use.

You'll want a wired Ethernet connection between the Steam Link and your PC. There are several ways to do this. If you already have a wired connection between your PC and your router, then just connect the Steam Link to your router. If your PC is connected wirelessly to your router, then you can connect the Steam Link directly to your PC. You could also do that if your PC has more than one Ethernet port.

The reason a wired connection is recommended is because you'll be streaming 1080p/60 video in real time. It can't be buffered like say, a Netflix video can, because the video is being created in real time. So any inconsistencies in your wireless signal could drop frames.

You can still use wireless controllers without issue.
You can still use wireless internet without issue. Although depending on the location of your PC, router, and TV, it may make more sense to switch to a wired internet connection.

Thank you seriously for some specific answers. I really do appreciate it, but I have to ask. You're speaking in an awful lot of absolutes. Are these things you know for a fact, or just your best extrapolation from what's on the store page? Can you share where you got all the info?

Also, reading some definitive answers now gives me, personally, the thought that the questions that I actually want answers to just aren't going to be answered till this thing comes out and I read some user reviews. I think that might be the case for most people's (including OP) concerns.

If I buy this thing, I'll be hooking it up to my TV through HDMI, and connecting wirelessly to my router, which is wired to my PC. I'd imagine this is a very common set up.

As far as specs, I have a nice pretty new gaming rig, gigabit internet, and a router that is more than capable of handling that bandwidth. I feel like if it's going to work for any wireless set up at all it'd be that one. If it doesn't, there just isn't a point in buying it. So I just won't be able to get it till I see it in action with a similar set up.

All that aside though, I really do appreciate it, Robomagon. Thanks.
Assuming your router supports at least 802.11n, you'll probably get the best experience it can give wirelessly. Whether its best is good enough I can't say for certain though. There's only a few weeks between the preorder release date and the public release date, so no harm in waiting for reviews.

Personally, I'd just recommend getting some powerline ethernet adapters. This one would work just fine for this:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704164
(The 200 Mbps kit will work fine for this, but if you think you might want to add more stuff to a powerline network then go for one of the higher bandwidth models as these function as a hub rather than a switch or router.)
It's extra cost and no one likes that, but short of drilling through a wall I think it's the best option for your situation.
8BitCerberus 2015 年 6 月 24 日 下午 8:05 
Oh boy, here we go...

引用自 Simoney
So we know that SOMETHING can be wireless. Some Smart TVs connect to their network wirelessly. So can it connect to them wirelessly? Can this thing be wireless from the router AND the TV at the same time? Just sit somewhere in the house an optimal distance between the two? Likely not, but we don't know.

Yes. We do know:

引用自 Store Page
Home network connectivity to both Steam Link and host computer. Wired network strongly recommended.

Seriously. It's on the store page already. Home network from Steam Link to PC.

Which means the Steam Link connects to your TV via HDMI.

Even a purely wireless HDMI receiver has to connect physically to the TV's HDMI port, the "wireless" is between the reciever and the transmitter. Steam Link is, basically, a wireless HDMI receiver making your PC a wireless HDMI transmitter in this scenario.

This isn't rocket science.

What is the criteria the developers and marketing team used to gauge this recomendation? What caused them to decide the word "highly" was necessary for this note?

What criteria? Can't say for certain because I'm not one of their engineers. But I can say with some certainty that the reason for it is because wireless networks are highly suceptible to bandwidth degredation. So "highly recommending" a wired connection is to say "this is the guaranteed way to make it work without worrying whether your wireless network is oversaturated or there are too many APs competing for the same channel space as yours within range"

It's much easier to say "wired connection is highly recommended" than "a wireless network will work but you must have a network capable of at least 30Mbps stable speed and wireless networks are susceptible to interference from other access points within range, and too many devices connecting to your wireless network can severly impact the overall performance, so if at all possible we highly recommend a wired connection."

So I can use any controller I may use on my PC? My Xbox One controller mainly, can I use that? Sounds like it. Good. But does it have to be connected through a cable? If so, how many USB ports is it gonna have?

Does it specify wired and wireless Xbox 360 controllers? Yes. Does it specify wired Xbox One controller? Yes. Does it specify wireless Xbox One controller? No.

So what do we deduce from that?

And how many USB ports? Seriously?

引用自 Store Page
3 USB 2.0 ports

I mean... I know it's really deeply hidden there in the "Hardware Specifications" section and all... oh wait, no it's not. You don't even have to hit the "read more" drop down to see that.

All of these much more specific questions aren't answered on the store page, and as far as I've seen, not in the forums either.

Yes. Yes they are. Unless you can ask some more specific questions that aren't actually answered, everything you've brought up has been answered on the store page.
Sie 2015 年 6 月 25 日 下午 9:36 
I got my answers 8-Bit but thanks for your always helpful input. That'll be all.
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